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Smee

Joined: 24 Dec 2004 Location: Jeollanam-do
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 2:16 am Post subject: VANK: US Army Distorts Korean History |
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The Voluntary Agency Network of Korea (VANK) has accused the United States Forces Korea (USFK) of misrepresenting or misunderstanding Korean history.
VANK said American soldiers and their families here may be told that Korea has only a 1,339-year history, under the USFK's education program, dubbed ``Head-Start,'' as opposed to 4,340 years.
When foreigners read the program offered by the U.S. Eighth Army, they may believe Korean history started in 668 A.D. the agency added.
According to the education program, Korean history is divided into three main periods _ the Silla (668-935 A.D.), Goryeo (932-1392 A.D.), and the Yi (1392-1910 A.D.) dynasties.
It fails to include Gojoseon (about 2333 B.C.), the first kingdom formed on the Korean Peninsula, and also the country's main kingdoms such as Goguryeo (37 B.C.-668 A.D.) and Baekje (18 B.C.-660 A.D.).
Additionally, the Silla Kingdom was founded in 57 B.C. according to Korean and Asian historians. The year of 668 A.D. specified on the program is the year when the Three Kingdoms _ Goguryeo, Baekje and Silla _ were unified into one.
The U.S. Army also did not comment on Balhae (698-926), which was established after the fall of Goguryeo. |
http://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/news/nation/2007/10/116_11831.html
Oh, I thought it'd be something like "US Army claims it helped liberate Korea twice." We all know that's a distortion in the eyes of many. |
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ajgeddes

Joined: 28 Apr 2004 Location: Yongsan
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 2:38 am Post subject: |
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While Koreans do have a long history, Korea does not. Why can't people seperate that? |
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gk

Joined: 27 May 2007
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 2:38 am Post subject: |
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There were also prokaryotic Koreans living on the nutrient-rich sediments on the peninsula as far back as 3 billion years ago, another gross oversight on the part of the USFK. |
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Ilsanman

Joined: 15 Aug 2003 Location: Bucheon, Korea
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 2:52 am Post subject: |
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Why not ask for some proof that Korea is older than 1700 years or whatever?
VANK has nothing. They're the kind of people I hate the most. |
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SeoulFinn

Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Location: 1h from Seoul
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 3:20 am Post subject: |
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VANK is happy with a mere 4340 years? What happened to the "official truth" of 5000 years? In my opinion this news item is actually quite newsworthy after all, even though for a different reason.
I studied Korean studies in the university. Nevertheless, I tend to think that the "Korean history" started with the unification of the Three Kingdoms in 668 AD. I place almost no historical value on the Dangun myth. I also have huge difficulies in including Parhae into the Korean history. Yes, Parhae's leading elite was originally from Goguryo, but... I'm not even sure if I can say that Goguryo was really "Korean" either. |
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contrarian
Joined: 20 Jan 2007 Location: Nearly in NK
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 3:27 am Post subject: |
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My student lovr it when i show them I know the Dan gun legends and when I am adamant that the Korgoyo are definately NOT Chinese. |
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ruffie

Joined: 11 Oct 2006
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 7:34 am Post subject: |
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Last week's official essay topic at my school was Korea's five hundred thousand year history. I kid you not. I've been here long enough to know there's no point in saying anything. |
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bluelake

Joined: 01 Dec 2005
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 2:45 pm Post subject: |
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I teach Korean history in a Korean university. The history of the Korean peninsula is quite long, but Korean history is quite a bit less. Korea did not truly become a state until after the founding of Koryo; Unified Silla held barely more land than is in South Korea today and the unification was not all that strong, as was evidenced by the Later Three Kingdoms period (just before Koryo). I only differ slightly with SeoulFinn's opinion; the annexation of the Palhae people was an important milestone for Korea's being a truly unified country. I do agree that Palhae (and Koguryo before it) was not Korean--it also was not Chinese--it was a kingdom all its own, separated from the others by language and culture. However, when Khitan domination forced the Koguryo descendants to leave, they overwhelmingly voted with their feet to move south, thus making them part of Korean history, de facto. That their tombs and other artifacts are found in what is now part of China makes no difference; they weren't about to dig up all their ancestors and take them on the trip  |
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lastat06513
Joined: 18 Mar 2003 Location: Sensus amo Caesar , etiamnunc victus amo uni plebian
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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I think the USFK was only counting the Chosun Dynasty as the major part of independent Korean history because before that, the kingdoms were under the mercy of the various Chinese kings, emperors and warlords that ruled in the vicinity and had substantial influence over the kingdoms until they were unified under King Taejo in 1392.... that's primarily where the 1,700 years of independent history comes from.
As for liberation....Isn't it August 15th, a day or so after the US dropped the atom bombs on Japan, forcing them into surrender?
From what I read, is that Japan appealed to Korea's sense of "asian nationalism" and many conscripts, once on the frontlines, willingly started shooting at the GIs and if I am also not mistaken, many Korean manufacturing companies willingly supplied Japan with material for the war effort in an attempt to gain favor with them if they won the war?
I think I am wrong
I hope I am wrong  |
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bluelake

Joined: 01 Dec 2005
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 3:25 pm Post subject: |
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Hmmm... by my calculator, 1,700 years ago would be somewhere in the 4th century, not 14th. Also, China still held influence over Korea during the Yi Choson dynasty; also, it wasn't until the late 16th century before China officially recognized the dynasty.
August 15, 1945 is when Japan surrendered; the bombs were dropped several days before that. |
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Young FRANKenstein

Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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SeoulFinn wrote: |
Yes, Parhae's leading elite was originally from Goguryo, but... I'm not even sure if I can say that Goguryo was really "Korean" either. |
That's because it's Chinese.
What's that sound? Shit! the villagers are storming my apartment complex with torches and pitchforks! Run! |
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lastat06513
Joined: 18 Mar 2003 Location: Sensus amo Caesar , etiamnunc victus amo uni plebian
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 8:27 pm Post subject: |
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Hmmm... by my calculator, 1,700 years ago would be somewhere in the 4th century, not 14th. Also, China still held influence over Korea during the Yi Choson dynasty; also, it wasn't until the late 16th century before China officially recognized the dynasty.
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I stand corrected, thanx
But from what I saw as I went to places like Kyongju and such, there was a strong cultural connection between Korea and China to the point that Korea sent delegates to the Chinese Emperor's court (there was a painting on a tomb wall in China that distinctly depicted a Korean official as a member of the Chinese court.
I am not saying Korea was totally subserviant to China (though many books did say that before), but I do get a sense of superior-subordinate mentality in regards to Korea's historical relationship with China.
Anyway, I would take what the USFK says with a grain of salt; I mean, how seriously can you take an organization that broadcasts things like "Wear your wet weather gear" and "Never go near downed powerlines" as commercials on TV?
What they are saying is a condensed version of history that is not meant for a highly educated person, rather, it is meant to get people familiarized with their immediate surroundings and give people a brief version of events...if a soldier wants to know more about Korea's vast history, they can always go to a museum (actually- a museum tour is part of their welcome to Korea briefing [at least for those assigned to Yongsan, for those that didn't know) |
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Mr Crowley
Joined: 23 Mar 2006 Location: Suwon
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 9:31 pm Post subject: |
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VANK rhymes with WANK.  |
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SeoulFinn

Joined: 27 Feb 2006 Location: 1h from Seoul
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Posted: Fri Oct 12, 2007 10:12 pm Post subject: |
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bluelake wrote: |
[...]it also was not Chinese--it was a kingdom all its own, separated from the others by language and culture.[...] |
That's what I tend to think as well. Next time I see my former professor, I will ask for his opinion about this matter. He's a linguist especially interested in North Asian tribes and their languages. |
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Lonewolf

Joined: 02 Feb 2003
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Posted: Sat Oct 13, 2007 3:27 am Post subject: |
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VANK should be vanquished |
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