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Interracial breeding and mixing on the Korean peninsula
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 3:55 am    Post subject: Interracial breeding and mixing on the Korean peninsula Reply with quote

I would like to discuss the influence of foreign bloodlines on the Korean population.

I don't mean this thread to be a put-down, or upsetting in any way. I know Koreans would take great offense to this, because some are really into the "one pure Korean race" thing. At the same time, I know some Korean members of this board could lend a lot of insight into this topic, so I hope they feel OK about discussing it.

First, let me say that my wife is from Busan, although her father's family came from an area further inland, but still the Southern part of SK. Her mom is from the Busan area. She has copies of the family books... going back hundreds of years... just like most Koreans seem to have, yet she still seems to have a lot of traits that are very... well... Japanese. Many Koreans mistake her for a Japanese woman, actually. Her legs are shaped like a Japanese woman. She has a face that seems very "Japanese." Even her skin is the common white/yellow Japanese color (although I know many Asians share this commonality).

I have often wondered, given that the Japanese invaded and occupied Korea for a great deal of time, wasn't there quite an opportunity for some mixing of the blood to happen? Especially given how "prolific" a reputation the Japanese men had (including keeping comfort women, etc). Doesn't it seem somewhat feasible that a fair amount of people here might have some "hidden" Japanese blood in the family? It makes me wonder, too, how accurate and honest some of the family history books are. It wouldn't surprise me at all, given how serious this society is about appearance, if past families hadn't "fudged the books" somehow to make it appear that all ancestors were Korean.

I'm no expert. I'm just looking for some interesting discussion, which will hopefully not lead to flames and racist remarks.
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the_beaver



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 4:04 am    Post subject: Re: Interracial breeding and mixing on the Korean peninsula Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
It makes me wonder, too, how accurate and honest some of the family history books are. It wouldn't surprise me at all, given how serious this society is about appearance, if past families hadn't "fudged the books" somehow to make it appear that all ancestors were Korean.


Up to 30% of Koreans were slaves and did not have family names. Some names were alloted for slaves to adopt (I believe 배, 마 are two, although my memory could be wrong). Others were given the opportunity to buy names and, basically, write themselves into the family books. Taking that into consideration, that taking on a name wasn't all that hard, I wouldn't be surprised if you're right, although I haven't come across any research on it.
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 4:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great information, Beav. Given that, though, I am amazed that any Korean would want to keep the family name of 배 or 마. Wouldn't it almost be the same as wearing a big sign that says, "My grandpa was a slave?"
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jdog2050



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 4:11 am    Post subject: Re: Interracial breeding and mixing on the Korean peninsula Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
I would like to discuss the influence of foreign bloodlines on the Korean population.

I don't mean this thread to be a put-down, or upsetting in any way. I know Koreans would take great offense to this, because some are really into the "one pure Korean race" thing. At the same time, I know some Korean members of this board could lend a lot of insight into this topic, so I hope they feel OK about discussing it.

First, let me say that my wife is from Busan, although her father's family came from an area further inland, but still the Southern part of SK. Her mom is from the Busan area. She has copies of the family books... going back hundreds of years... just like most Koreans seem to have, yet she still seems to have a lot of traits that are very... well... Japanese. Many Koreans mistake her for a Japanese woman, actually. Her legs are shaped like a Japanese woman. She has a face that seems very "Japanese." Even her skin is the common white/yellow Japanese color (although I know many Asians share this commonality).

I have often wondered, given that the Japanese invaded and occupied Korea for a great deal of time, wasn't there quite an opportunity for some mixing of the blood to happen? Especially given how "prolific" a reputation the Japanese men had (including keeping comfort women, etc). Doesn't it seem somewhat feasible that a fair amount of people here might have some "hidden" Japanese blood in the family? It makes me wonder, too, how accurate and honest some of the family history books are. It wouldn't surprise me at all, given how serious this society is about appearance, if past families hadn't "fudged the books" somehow to make it appear that all ancestors were Korean.

I'm no expert. I'm just looking for some interesting discussion, which will hopefully not lead to flames and racist remarks.


It is odd how into the "pure blood" thing Koreans are, despite the fact that they have an actual word for the "mongolian mark", a blue birth-mark that denotes mongolian heritage.

Anyways, I wouldn't doubt that the Japanese occupation pretty much ended Korea's genetic isolation.
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samd



Joined: 03 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 4:11 am    Post subject: Re: Interracial breeding and mixing on the Korean peninsula Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
Her legs are shaped like a Japanese woman. She has a face that seems very "Japanese." Even her skin is the common white/yellow Japanese color (although I know many Asians share this commonality)


I agree with you about the purity of the Korean race, but it is so obviously ridiculous that it doesn't really need to be discussed.

On the other hand, your comments above are remarkably Korean.

Japanese shaped legs? Are you serious?

If that was a troll post, then well done sir.
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 4:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, I didn't know of a better way to say it than "Japanese-shaped legs."

Actually, those can be quite sexy in their own way.
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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In my time I have met two different people who claim to be descended from Confucius, who is admittedly a Chinese. When asked, those two people and the friends with them at the time said these descendants are Korean.

There is a certain amount of willful 'non-critical thinking' about this issue. The pure blood thing is a myth and at least educated Koreans know it is such and accept it anyway.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 4:36 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As long as they don't have Japanese knees.
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butlerian



Joined: 04 Sep 2006
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 4:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
Sorry, I didn't know of a better way to say it than "Japanese-shaped legs."

Actually, those can be quite sexy in their own way.


I can't think of anything better than a Japanese girl...but I'm probably a minority.
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faster



Joined: 03 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 4:39 am    Post subject: Re: Interracial breeding and mixing on the Korean peninsula Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
Her legs are shaped like a Japanese woman.


Heheee...I can just picture it...toddling along on the heads of two Japanese women...
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Scotticus



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PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 4:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

butlerian wrote:

I can't think of anything better than a Japanese girl...but I'm probably a minority.


I don't know if I'd say there's nothing better, but... Japanese girls are reeeaaaalll nice.
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The_Eyeball_Kid



Joined: 20 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 4:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
Great information, Beav. Given that, though, I am amazed that any Korean would want to keep the family name of 배 or 마. Wouldn't it almost be the same as wearing a big sign that says, "My grandpa was a slave?"


It's like having the name 'Freeman', 'Friedman', or any of its other derivatives.
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dogshed



Joined: 28 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 4:51 am    Post subject: Re: Interracial breeding and mixing on the Korean peninsula Reply with quote

faster wrote:
bassexpander wrote:
Her legs are shaped like a Japanese woman.


Heheee...I can just picture it...toddling along on the heads of two Japanese women...


Reminds me of South Park and Patrick Duffy.
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supernaut



Joined: 04 Jan 2007
Location: Nova Scotia

PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:36 am    Post subject: Dutch Reply with quote

There was a Dutch explorer who was also kept in Korea for a few years around the Gwanju are, supposedly him and his crew had some children, I was told there were blue eyed Koreans in that are and even the Family name Nam may have Dutch blood.
I forget his name, but I believe he is the one who coined the phrase "the Hermit Kingdom"
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uberscheisse



Joined: 02 Dec 2003
Location: japan is better than korea.

PostPosted: Sun Oct 14, 2007 6:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what about all those tall manchurian barbarians? could they be the reason why some koreans are so tall?
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