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Alyallen

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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 3:34 pm Post subject: Cheney and Obama are distant cousins: Mrs. Cheney |
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Who would have thunk it??
Cheney and Obama are distant cousins: Mrs. Cheney
2 hours, 1 minute ago
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - There's no sign of a family reunion planned, but U.S. Vice President Dick Cheney and Democratic presidential candidate Barack Obama are distant cousins.
So says the vice president's wife, Lynne Cheney, who said she discovered that her husband of 43 years is eighth cousins with the senator from Illinois.
The two men could hardly be more different. Cheney is an advocate for pursuing the war in Iraq to try to stabilize the country, while Obama wants to get U.S. troops out of Iraq.
Mrs. Cheney told MSNBC on Tuesday that it was "an amazing American story that one ancestor ... could be responsible down the family line for lives that have taken such different and varied paths."
The common ancestor was Mareen Devall, who the Chicago Sun-Times said was a 17th century immigrant from France.
Mrs. Cheney said she discovered the link through family research for her new book, "Blue Skies, No Fences," about growing up in Wyoming.
(To read more about the U.S. political campaign, visit Reuters "Tales from the Trail: 2008" online at http://blogs.reuters.com/trail08/)
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20071016/pl_nm/usa_politics_cheney_obama_dc |
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Adventurer

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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:10 pm Post subject: |
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Did it say the 17th century? Isn't that the 1600s? I don't recall the French going to the Americas that early except to New France i.e. parts of Canada, unless I am mistaken. I am not an expert on that. Supposedly Colin Powell and Bush have some common ancestry as well. |
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Alyallen

Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 4:17 pm Post subject: |
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Adventurer wrote: |
Did it say the 17th century? Isn't that the 1600s? I don't recall the French going to the Americas that early except to New France i.e. parts of Canada, unless I am mistaken. I am not an expert on that. Supposedly Colin Powell and Bush have some common ancestry as well. |
I haven't a clue. But then again, there are always random people moving to places you'd never expect them to go.
Really? Now that would be a bit of a stretch since Colin Powell and his family are from Jamaica. |
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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 7:10 pm Post subject: |
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For thousands of years they've kept a close watch on family genes.
Who gets cast into high public office, inter-marriage, landed aristocracy & the like ... yep.
Bush & Kerry (both Yale Skulls ) are even more closely related cousins than that of Obama & Cheney.
This all came out back in the lead-up to 2004 *cough* "elections"
Say, his has got me thinking. What d'yall think the chances are of Obama being a direct descendent of Thomas Jefferson?
And so it goes ... |
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Alyallen

Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 7:19 pm Post subject: |
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igotthisguitar wrote: |
For thousands of years they've kept a close watch on family genes.
Who gets cast into high public office, inter-marriage, landed aristocracy & the like ... yep.
Bush & Kerry (both Yale Skulls ) are even more closely related cousins than that of Obama & Cheney.
This all came out back in the lead-up to 2004 *cough* "elections"
Say, his has got me thinking. What d'yall think the chances are of Obama being a direct descendent of Thomas Jefferson?
And so it goes ... |
Um....Zero since his dad is from Africa. |
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Adventurer

Joined: 28 Jan 2006
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:21 pm Post subject: |
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Alyallen wrote: |
Adventurer wrote: |
Did it say the 17th century? Isn't that the 1600s? I don't recall the French going to the Americas that early except to New France i.e. parts of Canada, unless I am mistaken. I am not an expert on that. Supposedly Colin Powell and Bush have some common ancestry as well. |
I haven't a clue. But then again, there are always random people moving to places you'd never expect them to go.
Really? Now that would be a bit of a stretch since Colin Powell and his family are from Jamaica. |
Yes, but if you look at Powell's comlexion, he has a lot of European ancestry. There is some British royalty that connects Bush to Powell.
http://www.ancestry.netscape.com/landing/strange/bush3/answer3.htm |
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Alyallen

Joined: 29 Mar 2004 Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 10:43 pm Post subject: |
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Adventurer wrote: |
Alyallen wrote: |
Adventurer wrote: |
Did it say the 17th century? Isn't that the 1600s? I don't recall the French going to the Americas that early except to New France i.e. parts of Canada, unless I am mistaken. I am not an expert on that. Supposedly Colin Powell and Bush have some common ancestry as well. |
I haven't a clue. But then again, there are always random people moving to places you'd never expect them to go.
Really? Now that would be a bit of a stretch since Colin Powell and his family are from Jamaica. |
Yes, but if you look at Powell's comlexion, he has a lot of European ancestry. There is some British royalty that connects Bush to Powell.
http://www.ancestry.netscape.com/landing/strange/bush3/answer3.htm |
Yeah, he's 1/1,000 Scottish. Big whoop. I could probably find some interesting distant relatives if I looked hard enough. I'm part Scottish, Irish and Christ knows what else, complexion is not a good indicator of anything.... |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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Posted: Tue Oct 16, 2007 11:37 pm Post subject: |
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my great-great-grandfather owned your great-great-grandfather! |
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Alyallen

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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:16 am Post subject: |
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blaseblasphemener wrote: |
my great-great-grandfather owned your great-great-grandfather! |
Anything's possible. But I doubt it unless your great-great grandfather lived in Jamaica.... |
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blaseblasphemener
Joined: 01 Jun 2006 Location: There's a voice, keeps on calling me, down the road, that's where I'll always be
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 12:21 am Post subject: |
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Alyallen wrote: |
blaseblasphemener wrote: |
my great-great-grandfather owned your great-great-grandfather! |
Anything's possible. But I doubt it unless your great-great grandfather lived in Jamaica.... |
From "Fletch Lives". Highly obscure reference. But possibly true in Cheney/Obama's case, unless his mom is white. |
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Ya-ta Boy
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:29 am Post subject: |
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discovered that her husband of 43 years is eighth cousins |
This isn't all that startling when you stop to think about it. Go back far enough and you'll find we are all related. This thought is not something I choose to dwell on when I think about who that means I'm related to on this board. |
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OneWayTraffic
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 4:41 pm Post subject: |
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Ya-ta Boy wrote: |
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discovered that her husband of 43 years is eighth cousins |
This isn't all that startling when you stop to think about it. Go back far enough and you'll find we are all related. This thought is not something I choose to dwell on when I think about who that means I'm related to on this board. |
They've done studies on this. A computer simulation showed that it was quite possible that the nearest common ancestor was around only a few thousand years ago, given that there are very few truly isolated populations these days.
Other, more genetic studies have shown that through Y chronosomal tests, all men are descended from a man living in Africa about 60,000 years ago. Similar tests have been done with women using mitochrondial DNA, which is passed down through the mother only. |
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dogbert

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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 5:43 pm Post subject: |
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It looks to me like someone is trying to smear Obama. |
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spliff

Joined: 19 Jan 2004 Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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This all came out back in the lead-up to 2004 *cough* "elections" Rolling Eyes |
Why the "COUGH"? Is it because kerry lost? |
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Pluto
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Posted: Wed Oct 17, 2007 8:22 pm Post subject: |
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spliff wrote: |
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This all came out back in the lead-up to 2004 *cough* "elections" Rolling Eyes |
Why the "COUGH"? Is it because kerry lost? |
No, I think that "WHEEZE" is from Ralph Nader's loss  |
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