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Why is Korean trot music considered traditional?
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Provence



Joined: 18 Oct 2008
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:13 pm    Post subject: Why is Korean trot music considered traditional? Reply with quote

How can a style of music that is only a few decades old be considered traditional? It's like saying disco is traditional music.
(Traditional - pertaining to time-honored orthodox doctrines)
Also, doesn�t trot music derive from the Japanese music genre of drinking songs known as enka. So how is it traditionally Korean?

Personally I hate that style of music and can�t understand why some Koreans would even want to think of it as traditional.
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Fishead soup



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:26 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's traditional because it goes well with Makoli and pigs feet
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nukeday



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never heard it referred to as traditional. I've heard it called old-fashioned many times. Personally, I prefer it over k-pop. At least it does sound like uniquely Korean music (even with its derivations from enka, it's still a bit different. I'd say synthy).
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Smee



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nukeday wrote:
I've never heard it referred to as traditional. I've heard it called old-fashioned many times. Personally, I prefer it over k-pop. At least it does sound like uniquely Korean music (even with its derivations from enka, it's still a bit different. I'd say synthy).


Agreed I've only heard it called old-fashioned. I also consider it vastly superior to k-poop. I mean, come on:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ia9E0yECkpw

Trot has personality and feeling, even if it does kind of all sound the same. The dancey stuff has some similarities to the polkas my uncles and grandparents listen to.
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eamo



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ Yeah.....Koreans don't really consider it their traditional music.....they have their own distinctive traditional music.

Trot is just considered 'old peoples' music.
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Provence



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

nukeday wrote:
I've never heard it referred to as traditional.


I have heard it referred to as traditional several times from different Koreans. I suppose it could be a translation problem though.
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brier



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Provence wrote:
nukeday wrote:
I've never heard it referred to as traditional.


I have heard it referred to as traditional several times from different Koreans. I suppose it could be a translation problem though.


Bingo. I think you're right with the translation issue. That said..., some Korean trot music is good.
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Provence



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 8:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Found this article where it refers to trot music as traditional Korean music.
http://koreanpopculture.blogspot.com/2007/03/trot-music.html
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chellovek



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 8:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had kids refer to it as 'country music' when that came up in class. Either way, it's alright to listen to, especially when drunk.
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Smee



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Provence wrote:
Found this article where it refers to trot music as traditional Korean music.
http://koreanpopculture.blogspot.com/2007/03/trot-music.html


That's true, but it's also by students with little to no knowledge of Korean music, and cites articles in Korea's English-language newspapers, which are written and proofed by Koreans with imperfect English. Traditional doesn't seem the best word to translate or describe it, because it's only a few decades old, is derivative from overseas, and has limited appeal across generation gaps. Just saying, I think "traditional" is a misused word for trot in the same way "scientific" is used for hangeul.


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AsiaESLbound



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've heard that many times in the street markets. It's about as traditional as it gets around here. It must be 1950's or 60's Asian music style with older more traditional elements. It isn't young style. This is what old people enjoy.
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crossmr



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 10:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Provence wrote:
Found this article where it refers to trot music as traditional Korean music.
http://koreanpopculture.blogspot.com/2007/03/trot-music.html


traditional pop music and traditional music are two different things.
The forward is written by "Helen" whose profile isn't available. Good chance they're not Korean. The part attributed to a Korean refers to it as traditional "pop music"

traditional pop music would fit with the definition of pop music
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pop_music

since it's a very young genre.
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tiger fancini



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PostPosted: Sun Jun 20, 2010 10:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Greatest Trot song of all time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxB8BNvtlPk&feature=related
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Slowmotion



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

tiger fancini wrote:
Greatest Trot song of all time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sxB8BNvtlPk&feature=related

아저씨s love it..

It gets stuck in my head too i admit

He seems like a pretty average singer though
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mcviking



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PostPosted: Mon Jun 21, 2010 1:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So thats what it's label is eh? I always called it adjoshi music. Love it when I am hella trashed in a taxi. Better than being asked where are you from. Something about driving around in a taxi listening to such awesomely bad over the top music make me giggle. One time I asked for music and he imediately put in a ABBA's greatest hits DVD on the player. That made my drunk ride home ten times more awesome. Dancing Queen at 3:30 am on a Saturday is quite entertaining.
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