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Do you ever have Koreans correct your pronunciation?
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waynehead



Joined: 18 Apr 2006
Location: Jongno

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:16 am    Post subject: Do you ever have Koreans correct your pronunciation? Reply with quote

...of English words that they don't realize are cognates/loan words? It can be frustrating/funny. I've had it happen with "yogurt" and "showmanship." It's syo-man-sip, she said... Smile
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Hyeon Een



Joined: 24 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

When speaking English? Yes, but usually because I didn't use the standard N.American pronunciation and used British or Aussie pronunciation. Not because they wanted me to speak Konglish-English (except when kidding around)

When speaking Korean? Yes, because the English way is incorrect when using loan words in Korean =) (e.g. "Orange juice" is wrong, "oran-gee-joo-suh" is correct).

Oh and I guess when I taught little kids they probably tried to make me use the Korean pronunciation when speaking English, but I don't recall any specific examples. But I guess something close would be a girl insisting to me that her English name was "Rola" rather than "Laura".
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whatever



Joined: 11 Jun 2006
Location: Korea: More fun than jail.

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 1:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hell, I got corrected today by a class on the use of the word 'baguette'...when they start correcting your pronunciation of loan words loaned to English via French, etc.....you know the fun has started. Very Happy They then 'told' on me to one of the Korean teachers that I was using Korean in class. Very Happy
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KOREAN_MAN



Joined: 01 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 2:09 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

FYI, the word 'ideology' is pronounced ee-deh-ohl-lo-ghi (이데올로기). Very Happy
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reactionary



Joined: 22 Oct 2006
Location: korreia

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i once corrected a student who kept saying "sweet paydo" instead of "potato." I corrected him, then korean staff told me "no, it's right. in america they pronounce it "sweet podado.""

Dan Quayle school 'o english
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pest2



Joined: 01 Jun 2005
Location: Vancouver, Canada

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:45 am    Post subject: Re: Do you ever have Koreans correct your pronunciation? Reply with quote

waynehead wrote:
...of English words that they don't realize are cognates/loan words? It can be frustrating/funny. I've had it happen with "yogurt" and "showmanship." It's syo-man-sip, she said... Smile


me se ji, not message.

sa ee keul, not cycle.

Peu lan seu, not France.

Most country names.

lo deo lae seo, not road race.

Korean language is annoying. Most languages are compatible with other languages when it comes to writing and speaking, but Korean is pretty closed and rigid... ironic thats how the people and cuture are too.
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reactionary



Joined: 22 Oct 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

koreans actually pronounce some other languages' words better than americans though, or at least i've noticed that with spanish. two examples off the top of my head are coyote and rodeo.

very isolated incidents, however.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 3:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Some of my friends are professional voice actors, and they've had all sorts of jobs. One job, they were supposed to read the slogan of a company or something, and the clients were annoyed with how they pronounced "all." They were forced to say it like a Korean would pronounce it, more like "orl." I'm not even sure why you'd want to pay an overpaid voice actor to fake a Korean accent like that.
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esetters21



Joined: 30 Apr 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

reactionary wrote:
koreans actually pronounce some other languages' words better than americans though, or at least i've noticed that with spanish. two examples off the top of my head are coyote and rodeo.

very isolated incidents, however.


Let's be honest here. What dialect are they going for as far as English pronunciation? I'm pretty sure it's of the American variety.
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reactionary



Joined: 22 Oct 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what i mean is, have an american say "coyote"

then have a korean say "coyote"

the korean will probably closer to the original mexican spanish word, coyote.

but yeah, you're right. they probably want to say it the incorrect american way, but the word has been hangulized differently.
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ED209



Joined: 17 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get it sometimes. Confused a kid today by telling them it's Rome not Roma.
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indiercj



Joined: 30 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

KOREAN_MAN wrote:
FYI, the word 'ideology' is pronounced ee-deh-ohl-lo-ghi (이데올로기). Very Happy


It came from Germany via Japan.
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Boodleheimer



Joined: 10 Mar 2006
Location: working undercover for the Man

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i actually think Korean is way better than Chinese in this regard. in Chinese, they take the English names of pretty much all countries and cities and approximate it into Chinese pronunciation. in Korea, at least they take the non-English pronunciation of some places into account.
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pest2



Joined: 01 Jun 2005
Location: Vancouver, Canada

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ED209 wrote:
Get it sometimes. Confused a kid today by telling them it's Rome not Roma.


EXCEPT its Roma in Italy (Italia), not Rome. If you are having a conversation in English, maybe Rome is better, but when in Korea, do as the Romans do.....
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ajuma



Joined: 18 Feb 2003
Location: Anywere but Seoul!!

PostPosted: Thu Oct 11, 2007 5:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I once had a student who said "tomater" and "potater"!! I wondered where her foreign teacher was from!!
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