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Troll_Bait
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: [T]eaching experience doesn't matter much. -Lee Young-chan (pictured)
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 Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:23 am Post subject: Wondergirls: 30-yr-old guys like us so much! |
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http://english.chosun.com/w21data/html/news/200710/200710190019.html
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The girls looked tired in their short skirts.
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The five Wonder Girls -- Sun-mi, Sun-ye, Ye-eun, Yoo-bin and So-hee -- were wearing heavy makeup and their individually unique, funky outfits. "We really feel our popularity when 30-year-old guys ask us for autographs. ..." |
So, fifteen-year-olds in miniskirts and heavy makeup are really popular with guys in their thirties?
And check out the flasher at around 1:50 in their music video:
http://qtv.freechal.com/Viewer/QTVViewer.asp?qtvid=140586&srchcp=N&q=텔미%20뮤직비디오
I was going to say something ... but I think I'm pedophiled out. |
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halfmanhalfbiscuit
Joined: 13 Oct 2007
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:35 am Post subject: |
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| It's a cover of Stacey Q,Two of Hearts. |
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Masta_Don
Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Location: Hyehwa-dong, Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:43 am Post subject: |
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Thanks for the cultural reference so now I know why all my kids flip out when I say "Tell me..."
Now why are they all of a sudden saying 'shit' like they're spitting it out the side of their mouth? |
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twg
Joined: 02 Nov 2006
Location: Getting some fresh air...
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 6:49 am Post subject: |
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butlerian
Joined: 04 Sep 2006
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:06 am Post subject: |
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| The guy who mentioned pedophilia is over-the-top in my opinion. It's normal to get a backlash after recent events, but let's not go too far. I don't support silly groups of young girls like these, but the sexual element - though not decent - is not of an explicit or dangerous nature. |
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VanIslander
Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:09 am Post subject: Re: Wondergirls: 30-yr-old guys like us so much! |
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| Troll_Bait wrote: |
| ... I think I'm pedophiled out. |
pedophilia is not about being attracted to 15 year olds
it's about prepubescent youths
in the west there's a clear and fundamental difference between being attracted to a high school student (Britney Spear's "Baby One More Time" 17 years old, dressed like a schoolgirl in the video) and being attracted to any elementary school aged student (pedophilia)
in the middle is the coming-of-age fuzziness in definition that begins with the tragic twistedness of Lolita and ends with a coming out sweet sixteen birthday.
koreans have no such distinctions it seems nor a fuzzy inbetween
you can see korean men in pc rooms taking inordinate interest in staring at music videos of 7 year old girls and in being attracted to women who act like little girls
it's wrong as we see it but ignored or hushed or accepted, not sure which, by koreans
i don't think koreans would think fortysomething year olds eyeing prepubescents is sick and thus don't feel any uncomfortableness about attraction shown toward 15 year olds
i personally think koreans are corrupt in terms of gender relations on so many levels, and yes it is a value judgement, and one shared by almost all here hopefully, to one degree or another |
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butlerian
Joined: 04 Sep 2006
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:12 am Post subject: Re: Wondergirls: 30-yr-old guys like us so much! |
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| VanIslander wrote: |
i don't think koreans would think fortysomething year olds eyeing prepubescents is sick and thus don't feel any uncomfortableness about attraction shown toward 15 year olds
i personally think koreans are corrupt in terms of gender relations on so many levels, and yes it is a value judgement, and one shared by almost all here hopefully, to one degree or another |
You are wrong. It's easy to label "Koreans" as thus, but you need to get a better understanding and a more generalised viewpoint, my friend. Few Koreans wouldn't think adjosshis eyeing up "prepubescents" as anything but sick. |
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Masta_Don
Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Location: Hyehwa-dong, Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 7:13 am Post subject: Re: Wondergirls: 30-yr-old guys like us so much! |
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| VanIslander wrote: |
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You're absolutely right. Even though the age of consent is lower in Canada than here or Japan, in the West we don't sexualize such young ages.
(mod edit: pic removed) |
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indytrucks
Joined: 09 Apr 2003
Location: The Shelf
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 1:37 pm Post subject: |
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Just when I thought it was impossible for Korean pop music to sink any lower.
* slaps hand to forehead * |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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Since I don't follow Korea pop music either, this thread was a revelation to me about the "tell me" bit. Perhaps one of you can enlighten me about something else. One of the 8 year old girls in my church ward (I'm the only foreigner) has started saying in English to everyone she meets, "Come on, baby, come on!" Has anyone else noticed 1st or 2nd graders doing that and, if so, what pop bit is that from?
indytrucks, I fear the answer to my query might make us both slap our foreheads. |
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PeteJB
Joined: 06 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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Eh.. well.. I dunno what to think. I think I'll give up thinking  |
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jaderedux2
Joined: 09 Jul 2007
Location: lurking just lurking
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 2:30 pm Post subject: Re: Wondergirls: 30-yr-old guys like us so much! |
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| VanIslander wrote: |
| Troll_Bait wrote: |
| ... I think I'm pedophiled out. |
pedophilia is not about being attracted to 15 year olds
it's about prepubescent youths
in the west there's a clear and fundamental difference between being attracted to a high school student (Britney Spear's "Baby One More Time" 17 years old, dressed like a schoolgirl in the video) and being attracted to any elementary school aged student (pedophilia)
in the middle is the coming-of-age fuzziness in definition that begins with the tragic twistedness of Lolita and ends with a coming out sweet sixteen birthday.
koreans have no such distinctions it seems nor a fuzzy inbetween
you can see korean men in pc rooms taking inordinate interest in staring at music videos of 7 year old girls and in being attracted to women who act like little girls
it's wrong as we see it but ignored or hushed or accepted, not sure which, by koreans
i don't think koreans would think fortysomething year olds eyeing prepubescents is sick and thus don't feel any uncomfortableness about attraction shown toward 15 year olds
i personally think koreans are corrupt in terms of gender relations on so many levels, and yes it is a value judgement, and one shared by almost all here hopefully, to one degree or another |
nice post! I mean that! |
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Natalia
Joined: 10 Mar 2006
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So, instead of people coming on here to say there's something wrong with sexual attraction to underage girls, you've all tried to find a way to justify it.
Yesterday somebody was saying they think most men who teach in Asia have disturbing sexual tendencies. How am I supposed to defend you when you say things like this? |
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SuperFly
Joined: 09 Jul 2003
Location: In the doghouse
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 3:01 pm Post subject: |
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Natalia,
Tell them it goes on everywhere, and by the way - you don't have to defend us, we can defend ourselves.
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Police: Man began relationship with teen when she was 11
Eugene Scott
The Arizona Republic
Oct. 22, 2007 03:46 PM
Tempe Police arrested a 27-year-old man after a 16-year-old girl reported he had sexually assaulted her and then admitted to police that they had been dating since she was 11.
The girl told police that Pedro Leon, of Tempe, had sexually assaulted her last month after they broke up. She then provided police with more information about their relationship, including telling them that she and Leon had conceived a child during their five-year relationship.
Leon was arrested on suspicion of three counts of sexual conduct with a minor and one count of sexual assault. |
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Alyallen
Joined: 29 Mar 2004
Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!
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| Posted: Mon Oct 22, 2007 3:13 pm Post subject: |
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ugh....Another craptastic video courtesy of the Wonder Girls.
Burberry man. My elementary students mentioned him yesterday. I haven't heard of one around my school.  If there was, there would be hell to pay.
Aren't the Wonder Girls older than 15? Isn't one like 19, 2 17 and 1 15 or some crap like that? |
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