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Any Ondol Experts?

 
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 12:32 am    Post subject: Any Ondol Experts? Reply with quote

Why is it that every year or so, an Ondol heating machine must be "drained" in some way? I've seen Koreans do this when it stops working properly, but no one has ever explained to me what needs to be done. When winter hits (like now) I feel as if there is some kind of maintenance I should be doing to prevent the total loss of heat overnight, and a cold shower in the morning.
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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
Location: peeing on your doorstep

PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 1:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think you will find on the front of your water boiler a round dial-type gauge with two needles, a long yellow one and a shorter red one.

Now, imagine that gauge is a clock face. Disregarding the actual numbers on the dial, if everything is normal it should read "9 o'clock" so to speak. Red needle pointing to where "12" would appear were it a clock, the yellow needle pointing to where "9" would be.

Problems occur when those needles don't *read* "9 o'clock". Typically, the upwards-pointing red needle will drift down in the direction of the yellow needle (which I don't believe I've ever seen not pointing at "9"). This indicates that water has leaked or evaporated from / air has entered into the ondol circuit (system of coils).

When this happens, heating will be inefficient or non-existent. This is when you would drain the pipes empty and then refill them with water to get the circuit back. If that doesn't work, you've got a leak somewhere.

People will also drain their ondol system when they leave on extended holiday during the winter, so that water in the circuit will not freeze, expand and potentially crack tubing & joints. Alternatively, you can leave the ondol on at the lowest possible setting to ensure the pipes won't freeze.
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Kimchi Cowboy



Joined: 17 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 1:43 am    Post subject: Re: Any Ondol Experts? Reply with quote

bassexpander wrote:
When winter hits (like now)...


Laughing Laughing Laughing

Wait til it drops down below -10.
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 1:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ha... well, I mean it's time to start up the Ondol soon. Smile

Thanks, JG.
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boatofcar



Joined: 20 Dec 2006
Location: Sheffield, UK

PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I mean this in a completely serious way.

This site has been the most helpful place on the internet to get ondol/hot water information for your Korean apartment.
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not necessary to drain it completely (don't even know how that's done). I just twist the water adder valve until it overflows this ensures the pipes are completely full.
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JongnoGuru



Joined: 25 May 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

spliff wrote:
It's not necessary to drain it completely (don't even know how that's done). I just twist the water adder valve until it overflows this ensures the pipes are completely full.

Yeah, that's right. It's more like 'flushing' the old water out, get all the air pockets out. In some older systems, it'll even be rusty brown and there's some ... not exactly sediment, but 'impurities' in the water. Less now that they use PVC for the coils, but I was here when it was metal.
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Cheonmunka



Joined: 04 Jun 2004

PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 1:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

HI guys, I've got eight pipes going through the house coming from the valve cylinder connecting the pipe from the boiler room. When I turn on valves for each of the eight pipes I hear water bubbling in the cylinder. Does this mean there are air pockets? If there are, will it reduce the heat dramatically within the house? I've located all the pipes' locations but one of the pipes (an important one) seems only to warm up just a little one very small area in a room. The problem is it's in the living room right at the foot of a sofa area so it's going to be cold there and it's going to be a Gaddamn cold winter. Anyway, could this pipe not heating up be because of air bubbles?

Thanks for that interesting take you guys, especially Spliff. Though, I thought you would have said something witty, or even sexy, during your post. Alas, not to be ...

PS: Is the water adder valve near the boiler or is it near the valves?
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Tony_Balony



Joined: 12 Apr 2007

PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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now that they use PVC


They don't use PVC - I think its called "PEX".
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mrsquirrel



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

WHat the hell is a 'water adder valve'?
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Luna



Joined: 22 Feb 2007
Location: seoul suburbs

PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 3:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maybe this is a stupid question, but - I live in an officetel, do I even have access to my water boiler? (It's not hidden inside my apartment or anything...right?)
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 5:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrsquirrel wrote:
WHat the hell is a 'water adder valve'?


Little knob under the box that you turn until water starts coming out and then you close it again...have a look for the little knob... Very Happy
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