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Judge Judy says "let them Die"
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Keepongoing



Joined: 13 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 7:54 pm    Post subject: Judge Judy says "let them Die" Reply with quote

I deplore this woman. I do not care what her success record is; just because you have a position of authority over others should not give you license to demean and talk down to everyone. I have authority over my students, but I do not consider myself better than them. It scares me that Americans love her so much.

On November 16, 1999, while on a 2 week tour in Brisbane, Australia for her Beauty Fades, Dumb Is Forever book, Judge Judy sparked some controversy. In commenting on needle exchange programs to prevent disease, during a lunch time speech, she put down needle exchange advocates as "liberal morons." She also said, "no point talking about how best to approach the problem since the solution is simple. Give them dirty needles, and let them die. I don't understand why we think it's important to keep them alive." Though the audience in the Brisbane's Carlton Crest cheered, Judge Judy was slammed by many shortly afterwards. Some stated her comments were, "callous and deplorable." A chief executive of the Alcohol and Drug Foundation of Queensland stated through the Melbourne newspaper, "the arrogance of a TV celebrity using the tragedy of young lives struck down by drugs for her own commercial gain is nothing short of repulsive." In the United States, prominent liberal commentator, Arianna Huffington, slammed Judge Judy in her nationally syndicated column, with an editorial she titled "The New Callousness." An internet-based campaign directed toward the Judge Judy show's sponsors began to mount up. Three of Judge Judy's former sponsors, Herr's Potato Chips, Papa John's Pizza, and a joint venture of Shell Oil and Chase Manhattan Bank, replied via e-mail that they'd cease running ads on the Judge Judy show. At one point, activists in New York planned to protest Judge Judy's book for what she had said, but called the plans off after learning it was a children's book. The controversy also led to the launch of DumpJudgeJudy.com. Sheindlin made efforts to explain herself, releasing two public statements on her web site. She also made the statement to the press, "anybody who thinks that I would advocate the government supplying tainted needles to addicts is a fool - and that includes journalists with an agenda. What I do oppose is a policy, which even tacitly sends the message that we, as a society, approve or condone drug use and that includes free needles and a government sponsored place to shoot up." Sheindlin also told the New York Post, "If they're looking for me to say I'm sorry to the families who lost children or loved ones [to AIDS or drugs] -- absolutely. I feel badly if words that I used hurt them. But am I going to apologize to a [drug advocacy] group that has an agenda -- absolutely not. This group has an agenda, and that's legalizing drugs." Sheindlin added that she didn't remember her exact, original quote, but said it was changed or taken out of context. [5] [6]


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Judith_Sheindlin
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cbclark4



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 8:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Drug addicts need coddling and hugs and stuff.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 8:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Preferably clean stuff.
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Qinella



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 8:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CentralCali wrote:
Preferably clean stuff.


Zing!


Judge Judy is just saying extremist things to get attention. No one gets in the news by making reasonable, well considered arguments.
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mindmetoo



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 8:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's not liberal. It's just pragmatic. People are always going to inject drugs. Letting them die won't ensure the next generation is free or has less IV drug users. People on drugs are probably going to have a lot of sex and babies with each other. And at least in Canada we just don't let people die, even if they screw up their own lives. We hospitalize them. And that costs money. If we can hand out 25 cent needles to avoid a $50,000 hospital bill, I think that's pragmatic.
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dogbert



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PostPosted: Mon Oct 29, 2007 9:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"Judge Judy"'s opinion on any subject is less relevant than a bucket of warm spit. What's wrong with you?

Next you'll be concerned about whatever crap comes out of "Dr." Laura Schlesinger's mouth. Rolling Eyes
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jajdude



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My "Tv people you hate" thread`was based on that jerk.
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Doutdes



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The funny thing is, callousness aside, she's still an idiot. We as a society have very good and selfish reasons to provide clean needles. Intravenous drug users do not exist as some separate street living species. They have plenty of contact with the rest of society and therefore plenty of opportunities to pass along those diseases.
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djsmnc



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 6:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doutdes wrote:
Intravenous drug users do not exist as some separate street living species. They have plenty of contact with the rest of society and therefore plenty of opportunities to pass along those diseases.


Really? I tend to see them as rat-like people who live in dilapidated buildings and sewers.
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Keepongoing



Joined: 13 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cbclark4 wrote:
Drug addicts need coddling and hugs and stuff.


Maybe they need some of that, but mostly they need to face up to reality. You seem to know a lot about heroin addiction? I worked in heroin rehab for 15 years in Hong Kong. Most of the people had came out of the Triad gangs. Luckily they were in HK because on the mainland China was putting a bullet in their heads and made the family pay for the bullet. There is a happy medium between killing them and cuddling them.
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Keepongoing



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

djsmnc wrote:
Doutdes wrote:
Intravenous drug users do not exist as some separate street living species. They have plenty of contact with the rest of society and therefore plenty of opportunities to pass along those diseases.


Really? I tend to see them as rat-like people who live in dilapidated buildings and sewers.


I have known people who were doctors, professionals and musicians in philharmonics addicted to heroin and still functioning.
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Bryan



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 12:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doutdes wrote:
The funny thing is, callousness aside, she's still an idiot. We as a society have very good and selfish reasons to provide clean needles. Intravenous drug users do not exist as some separate street living species. They have plenty of contact with the rest of society and therefore plenty of opportunities to pass along those diseases.


That's not a reason to provide drugs payed for by stolen money from taxpayers. I don't want to pay for people's drugs with my money. This is just a reason to privatize roadways and streets. For example, people living in gated communities don't have to come in contact with horrible, depraved drug addicts. Their roads are privately owned.
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Bramble



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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 4:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
Sheindlin added that she didn't remember her exact, original quote, but said it was changed or taken out of context.


I hate Judge Judy as much as many of you ... but who here really thinks the quote was reported accurately? Media misquote people all the time.
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SPINOZA



Joined: 10 Jun 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 4:18 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Judge Judy�s opinion on the drug war is straightforwardly wrong. It is not a matter of opinion - the war on drugs is as successful as the prohibition of alcohol was in the 1930s and should have the exact same conclusion. Maybe, though, she hasn�t really studied it that much. It�s like all these greasy hagwon clowns in the current events forum bemoaning global warming as �crap�. Who really cares what these greasers think? Judge Judy obviously hasn't given drugs and the unmitigated disaster that is the drug war much thought � so who cares what she thinks?

Also, at least JJ was apologetic. She regretted what she said and shot her big mouth off because she has a tough (but wrong) stance towards prohibition and maybe said it not entirely seriously. I don't like her and proud-to-be-loud, proud-to-be-working-class women like her, but really one should be as concerned by this as one should be about a TEFL monkey rallying against an international scientific consensus. If you want to know about drugs and prohibition, seek an expert opinion, not Judge Judy's.
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 30, 2007 4:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i just saw on CNN a firefighter give mouth-to-mouth/nose CPR to someone's dead cat rescued from a smoky fire, and the cat lived

respect for life

it's basic, and beautiful

Judge Judy is missing something
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