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Who actually pays for their own housing?
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bulldogbill



Joined: 03 Dec 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 4:41 am    Post subject: Who actually pays for their own housing? Reply with quote

I am curious.

Given that the standard contract for employment as an English instructor in Korea includes free accommodation, my question is:

Who actually pays for their own housing?

Is it because you choose something better than the standard fare, or because your contract does not provide accommodation, or because your contract only provides a reimbursed amount?

So the next question for such people is what is the amount reimbursed?
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harryh



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: south of Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 4:44 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I pay for my own housing. It's better than the previous dives I've lived in, and in a more convenient location. I paid a deposit and pay rent monthly.

The first four contracts were with housing provided, but nowadays I have enough cash for some kind of deposit.
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Dome Vans
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 4:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I get a nice small, clean apartment which the Office of Education pays for and I don't even have to pay for utilities (Landlord) so everything is included. Feel sorry for A/C users in the summer and heating in the winter. Guess I got lucky with this one.
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Pyongshin Sangja



Joined: 20 Apr 2003
Location: I love baby!

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 4:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Given that the standard contract for employment as an English instructor in Korea includes free accommodation


Have you ever met anyone that doesn't work in a hagwon?
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faster



Joined: 03 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 5:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I pay for my own housing. When my housing was supplied, though, it was excellent, but it's nice not to have to rely on someone else for my source of shelter.
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Hyeon Een



Joined: 24 Jun 2005

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 6:59 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I pay for my own housing. My uni doesn't offer housing. We get $500 housing money a month.

I like being independent. I like being able to choose where I live. My 'housing priorities' are totally different to those of most Korean people - I don't care if my place is old, but I DO want an outside area. If you offered me a brand new apartment built yesterday I wouldn't take it over my 20 year old place because I have a huge terrace which is awesome for about 8 months of the year for barbecuing, parties etc. Most Koreans would prefer a small modern apartment with windows which don't even open.

In the past I've had housing provided by my employers.. I KNOW I would have been much happier if they'd let ME spend the money on a house instead of going with their idea of what a cheap house should be. There's cheap I like and cheap I don't like. Korean employers tend to choose the cheap I don't like.
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Demophobe



Joined: 17 May 2004

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 7:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pyongshin Sangja wrote:
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Given that the standard contract for employment as an English instructor in Korea includes free accommodation


Have you ever met anyone that doesn't work in a hagwon?


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Ya-ta Boy



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 11:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I currently live in job-provided housing but have had my own place before. One advantage to having your own place: When you quit the job you can still continue to live there as long as you want and not get thrown out on the street. More than one person has been forced to accept a job they didn't particularly like because they had to vacate the apartment they were living in when they finished their job.
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halfmanhalfbiscuit



Joined: 13 Oct 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 2:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

harryh wrote:
I pay for my own housing. It's better than the previous dives I've lived in, and in a more convenient location. I paid a deposit and pay rent monthly.

The first four contracts were with housing provided, but nowadays I have enough cash for some kind of deposit.


"Back in the day"I paid for my own housing,but not deposit.

WC 2002 paid 30 man won whilst working at YBM,which was not so bad,but 50 man won when I was daft enough to take a job at DE.I don't mind paying something for housing if it makes life a bit better.

Harryh-How are your Ultrasone hphones?I bought the entry level 15G earlier this year.Getting upgraditis...as well as a hankering for valves.
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SuperHero



Joined: 10 Dec 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 2:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I pay for my own housing and have done so since I completed my first contract. Why? Because I don't want to be an indentured laborer beholden to my employer for housing. I get to choose my neighborhood and apartment and the size of it.

It's much easier to maintain a seperation of work and personal life when your home is your home and not owned by your employer. Who wants to move everytime they quit a job. What about having to consider not quitting a job just because the house is nice or in a neighborhood that you like.

copied from the duplicate thread
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My housing is provided. It used to be in an awful place, until one of the near-campus units owned by the school opened up (another teacher moved to off-campus housing and I got this). In the old place, I had to live in a basement box, next to many of my students. I kept hearing them coming/going at 3am -- heels clicking up and down the marble stairs. It caused me sleep problems, which didn't help my daily work life, either.

They pretty much leave us alone, but we're really close to work, hear lots of noisy students, and the school takes a semester to come around and fix stuff unless I start raising my voice.

Having a good place makes all the difference in the world in your job. Unfortunately, most schools give you a choice of paid housing, or 300,000 to 400,000 compensation per month. You can't get much of anything with that, and end up spending your own money, too.

That means if you get your own place, you will probably need your own 5 to 10 mill in key money as well. A lot of newbee teachers don't have that, or don't feel comfortable letting some Korean sit on it for a year (and possibly not return it quickly).
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halfmanhalfbiscuit



Joined: 13 Oct 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 3:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never get tied into paying a deposit.

5-10 grand USD isn't small change and one's time in Korea is not guaranteed(on the basis of the E2 visa)

What is more,who knows how long the reimbursement lag going to be?

Beget that
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anyangoldboy



Joined: 28 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 4:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

saved enough money in my first two years to put 5mil down for my current place now. Sharing with one other person and there might be a third soon hopefully
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 5:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you plan to stay here for more than a year, I highly recommend getting your own place.
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saw6436



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Daejeon, ROK

PostPosted: Fri Oct 26, 2007 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My school provides housing and all utilities paid. I opted to buy my own place. One of my better decisions. Being totally independent is a true plus to living here.
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