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Masta_Don
Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Location: Hyehwa-dong, Seoul
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 Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 9:36 am Post subject: Progressive Cultural Differences |
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1. Girls drinking alone at bars.
At home, these girls are skanks. Nothing to do with them. Here they may or may not be, they just exist. I saw a girl tonight walk off with a foreigner's number and a Korean's number, but with neither of them. You go girl!
2. Service.
You know, immediately at your table, ready to serve. Not only are they there right when you need them, but, occasionally, they'll throw a freebie in, too. A bottle of soda or raw liver, it doesn't really matter when it's ser-bu-suh.
3. No stigma attached when meeting over the Internet.
At home an Internet hook-up is like, 'So, did you fuck her?' but here it's completely normal. The Internet has replaced written notes and love letters and the Western world needs to catch up on the 21st century. The Internet is not taboo; better to enjoy it, especially while others are thumbing their noses at it and the odds are good.
If this thread is out of line, I apologize. I know we work hard at bad-mouthing Korea and dissuading potential teachers from coming here, but I was enjoying myself in such a way tonight that I couldn't help myself. If truly inappropriate, Mods please delete. |
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doggyji
Joined: 21 Feb 2006
Location: Toronto - Hamilton - Vineland - St. Catherines
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 10:45 am Post subject: Re: Progressive Cultural Differences |
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| Masta_Don wrote: |
2. Service.
You know, immediately at your table, ready to serve. Not only are they there right when you need them, but, occasionally, they'll throw a freebie in, too. A bottle of soda or raw liver, it doesn't really matter when it's ser-bu-suh. |
Yeah, but who really says ser-bu-suh? 
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3. No stigma attached when meeting over the Internet.
At home an Internet hook-up is like, 'So, did you fuck her?' but here it's completely normal. The Internet has replaced written notes and love letters and the Western world needs to catch up on the 21st century. The Internet is not taboo; better to enjoy it, especially while others are thumbing their noses at it and the odds are good. |
Haha, this reminds me of this. I was talking about my friends I got acquainted with through the internet and I got major four rolling eyes from two of my female co-workers like this:  I met a few really good people in person via the internet. Both females and males. That's one of the ways to meet new people. Now what's wrong with your eyes?  |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:24 am Post subject: |
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4. I'm also a fan of restaurant delivery service. I think every Western nation on the face of the earth could learn a thing or two about this. What's not to like about those delivery boys bringing the food over and coming back and picking up the dishes later?
5. How can anyone complain about a country where they sell liquor for W1,000 a bottle and you only need 2 to get as drunk as you ever need to be?
6. Koreans are also free of sexual hangups associated with males showing innocent affection. Pretty healthy, in my opinion. |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 7:42 pm Post subject: |
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Those are all great points.
I shudder to think what it must be like when Korean women go study in North America, and realize how much different bar culture is there (outside a college campus anyways).
Internet meetings - you are right on about that! Here they have vocabulary all around it - my favorite is 'lightning meeting' (I forget the Korean word for it). You just got on the net that night, met that person online, and now out meeting each other.
I'm sure all of that happens in North America, but people are so shocked and embarrassed by it. |
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Natalia
Joined: 10 Mar 2006
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 8:38 pm Post subject: Re: Progressive Cultural Differences |
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| Masta_Don wrote: |
1. Girls drinking alone at bars.
At home, these girls are skanks. Nothing to do with them. Here they may or may not be, they just exist. I saw a girl tonight walk off with a foreigner's number and a Korean's number, but with neither of them. You go girl!
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They are?
I've never noticed that in Australia, nor in all my years doing barwork in England. |
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Masta_Don
Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Location: Hyehwa-dong, Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Oct 31, 2007 11:57 pm Post subject: Re: Progressive Cultural Differences |
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| Natalia wrote: |
| Masta_Don wrote: |
1. Girls drinking alone at bars.
At home, these girls are skanks. Nothing to do with them. Here they may or may not be, they just exist. I saw a girl tonight walk off with a foreigner's number and a Korean's number, but with neither of them. You go girl!
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They are?
I've never noticed that in Australia, nor in all my years doing barwork in England. |
Maybe it's an American thing. Typically a woman drinking alone at a bar, which rarely, rarely happens where I'm from, drinks there often. It's her bar. Which means it's also her stomping grounds. Nothing wrong with a girl getting what she wants but to pick up that girl means you also picked up everyone else at the bar. Pretty much happened to me in Japan. Took a girl drinking alone home. Found out later she had been gangbanged in the bar I picked her up in.
Another one I thought of. Having discounts cards in conjunction with telephone providers. I'm already paying them for their service. Doesn't hurt to get 10% off at GS25 or free movie tickets. |
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Alyallen
Joined: 29 Mar 2004
Location: The 4th Greatest Place on Earth = Jeonju!!!
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| Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 12:20 am Post subject: Re: Progressive Cultural Differences |
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| Masta_Don wrote: |
| Natalia wrote: |
| Masta_Don wrote: |
1. Girls drinking alone at bars.
At home, these girls are skanks. Nothing to do with them. Here they may or may not be, they just exist. I saw a girl tonight walk off with a foreigner's number and a Korean's number, but with neither of them. You go girl!
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They are?
I've never noticed that in Australia, nor in all my years doing barwork in England. |
Maybe it's an American thing. Typically a woman drinking alone at a bar, which rarely, rarely happens where I'm from, drinks there often. It's her bar. Which means it's also her stomping grounds. Nothing wrong with a girl getting what she wants but to pick up that girl means you also picked up everyone else at the bar. Pretty much happened to me in Japan. Took a girl drinking alone home. Found out later she had been gangbanged in the bar I picked her up in.
Another one I thought of. Having discounts cards in conjunction with telephone providers. I'm already paying them for their service. Doesn't hurt to get 10% off at GS25 or free movie tickets. |
Which part of America are you from? That certainly isn't the case in NYC, Long Island, New Hampshire, New Jersey, Connecticut, Ohio or in Vermont for that matter. You drink in a bar because you want to drink regardless of gender. Being there alone and female certainly doesn't mean that a. you are a tramp b. it's "your" bar c. you are out scamming for dudes
America is a BIG place, so I wouldn't be so quick to proclaim something that happens in your neck of the woods as standard operating procedure... |
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ESL Milk "Everyday
Joined: 12 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 1:11 am Post subject: |
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| Once again, a generalization was followed by a statement exposing the generalization as just that. It's almost as if there's no point in saying anything! |
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Masta_Don
Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Location: Hyehwa-dong, Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Nov 01, 2007 2:19 am Post subject: Re: Progressive Cultural Differences |
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| Alyallen wrote: |
Which part of America are you from? That certainly isn't the case in NYC, Long Island, New Hampshire, New Jersey, Connecticut, Ohio or in Vermont for that matter. You drink in a bar because you want to drink regardless of gender. Being there alone and female certainly doesn't mean that a. you are a tramp b. it's "your" bar c. you are out scamming for dudes
America is a BIG place, so I wouldn't be so quick to proclaim something that happens in your neck of the woods as standard operating procedure... |
Wasn't trying to cause a stir.
Since I've been frequenting bars, I've done so in mainly California and Missouri, with a dab of New York. In general, in my experience, people don't often drink alone at bars, least not the ones I go to (I have been to those, where everyone, man and woman, is 40+ and drinking alone but they're too depressing for me). The few times that I happen to stop in at a bar for a drink by myself, I usually see other men there drinking alone. The US is way more conservative about drinking alone and women drinking in general, than here, so I don't think it's too difficult to see the difference in bar culture. I would never expect to walk into a bar in the States and see five girls sitting by themselves slurping away on some neon concoction, but I see that almost every time I go out here. But you're right, I haven't been everywhere in the US. |
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