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Korea Refuses to Issue Visa to Dalai Lama
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in_seoul_2003



Joined: 24 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:59 am    Post subject: Korea Refuses to Issue Visa to Dalai Lama Reply with quote

from the koreatimes

Korea Refuses to Issue Visa to Dalai Lama

The South Korean government has refused an entry visa to the Tibetan spiritual leader, Dalai Lama, as Seoul is concerned about possible repercussions from Beijing which considers him a separatist rather than a religious leader.

China has accused the exiled Tibetan leader of instigating Tibetans to seek independence from China, but the Dalai Lama says his exiled government in India might accept full autonomy in a
compromise.

Human rights and religious groups have denounced the Seoul government in past years for kowtowing to Beijing, which fears any independence movement in Tibet could have a domino effect to lead other regions with ethnic minorities such as Xianjiang and Taiwan to seek independence.

It is the third rejection of a visa for the Dalai Lama by South Korea following rejections in 2000 and 2001.

Religious leaders from the Buddhist, Catholic and Protestant communities have asked the Dalai Lama to visit the country as a symbol of global peace amid warming inter-Korean relations after the second inter-Korean summit in October and progress in ongoing multilateral talks on ending North Korea's nuclear weapons ambitions.

"We were notified by the foreign ministry that his visit can't be allowed," a staff member of the Buddhist Solidarity for Reform, a nation-wide Buddhist group, said.

Analysts here said South Korea needs diplomatic support from China in the ongoing multilateral talks on North Korea's nuclear dismantlement, and in bringing to Seoul North Korean defectors.

The United States, Japan, Taiwan and many other countries often permit visits by the Dalai Lama despite China's repeated warnings against accepting him.

(Yonhap)
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in_seoul_2003



Joined: 24 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

not that i particularly care about the lama more than anyone else but i think this says alot of things about the kinds of things that korea doesn't like to hear about itself from foreigners.
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superdave



Joined: 20 Aug 2006
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 6:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

the dalai lama is the least of korea's problems ...

let's all be xenophobic to protect our relationship with an anally retentive communist country!
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Mix1



Joined: 08 May 2007

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pretty sad. A free and democratic asian nation with a large population of Buddhists won't let a guy visit to make a few speeches.
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superdave



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mix1 wrote:
Pretty sad. A free and democratic asian nation with a large population of Buddhists won't let a guy visit to make a few speeches.


yeah really ... i definitely would like to go and see him speak!

looks like it ain't happening now ...
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pastis



Joined: 20 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:46 am    Post subject: Re: Korea Refuses to Issue Visa to Dalai Lama Reply with quote

Quote:
Seoul is concerned about possible repercussions from Beijing

What a bunch of pussies.
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Matt_22



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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 7:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

so china pretty much has korea's nuts in a jar. but really, who doesn't?
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samd



Joined: 03 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 8:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hmm, good relations with China versus some speeches by a bald guy. Tough choice.

The Dalai Llama is a joke.
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in_seoul_2003



Joined: 24 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 8:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

samd wrote:
Hmm, good relations with China versus some speeches by a bald guy. Tough choice.

The Dalai Llama is a joke.


but that's beside the point. if they don't like people implying that they're a former vassal of china then stop acting like one.

and i think that you have already implied the silliness of it: if it's just a buch of speeches why does the government have its panties tied up so?
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catman



Joined: 18 Jul 2004

PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 11:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can understand if no politicians wanted to meet him. But to deny him entry even on religious grounds is shameful.

Ironically this administration would roll out the red carpet if Kim Jong-Il asked to visit.
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On the other hand



Joined: 19 Apr 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just to play Devil's Advocate for a bit here, but it could be argued that the realpolitik arguments for doing China's bidding are fairly strong here...

Quote:
Analysts here said South Korea needs diplomatic support from China in the ongoing multilateral talks on North Korea's nuclear dismantlement, and in bringing to Seoul North Korean defectors.


Is there anyone willing to argue that South Korea doesn't need Beijing's support on these issues?
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Mr. Pink



Joined: 21 Oct 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 12:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

samd wrote:
Hmm, good relations with China versus some speeches by a bald guy. Tough choice.

The Dalai Llama is a joke.


I second the motion. Motion is passed.
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genezorm



Joined: 01 Jul 2007
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i heard it was because they wanted a criminal record check and he couldn't get it within the ridiculous time frame demanded by the korean government
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Kimchi Cha Cha



Joined: 15 May 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

in_seoul_2003 wrote:
samd wrote:
Hmm, good relations with China versus some speeches by a bald guy. Tough choice.

The Dalai Llama is a joke.


but that's beside the point. if they don't like people implying that they're a former vassal of china then stop acting like one.

and i think that you have already implied the silliness of it: if it's just a buch of speeches why does the government have its panties tied up so?


Korea's not stupid, they know the best way to ensure they're safe and successful for the next century is to re-attach themselves to mother China's teat. The 20th century was very rough for Korea but not China is re-emerging as a superpower and they can take comfort resuming their role of a vassal state.

I'm being facetious with the above comment, but sometimes I wonder how far from the truth it is.
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hogwonguy1979



Joined: 22 Dec 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 04, 2007 5:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

proves that even today Korea is just a vassal state to china, just like in the old days
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