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reeshar



Joined: 22 Jun 2007
Location: back home for now

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 6:12 am    Post subject: is this normal?! Reply with quote

Hello guys, once again looking for some advice! I'm a newby, on my first placement, and I have been rather taken aback by what I have found out! (guess that's a familiar story in Korea, eh?) Firstly, there are literally no resources. None. I am to make them all up. Secondly, and more worryingly for me, is that they want to keep passport indefinately. Not for my alien registration form, they just want to keep it. That can't be right, surely? Anyway, hope you can shed some light on this guys
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htrain



Joined: 24 May 2007

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The passport is yours. There is no way they can hold that, that is not their property. They can want in one hand and *beep* in the other.

As for no resources, have you complained yet? What is your prep time like? what is your sched? where do you work? what are you wearing?
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kapshida



Joined: 18 Oct 2007

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 6:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

NOT normal. NOT good. The passport thing is a dealbreaker on its own.

Did this school just open or something? I was gonna ask if you mean the students have no books, or just no supplemental material....

But it doesn't really matter, cause the passport thing is too messed up.

Do you already have your visa?
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yingwenlaoshi



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 6:22 am    Post subject: Re: is this normal?! Reply with quote

reeshar wrote:
Hello guys, once again looking for some advice! I'm a newby, on my first placement, and I have been rather taken aback by what I have found out! (guess that's a familiar story in Korea, eh?) Firstly, there are literally no resources. None. I am to make them all up. Secondly, and more worryingly for me, is that they want to keep passport indefinately. Not for my alien registration form, they just want to keep it. That can't be right, surely? Anyway, hope you can shed some light on this guys


They've got rocks in their heads.
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Norith



Joined: 02 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 6:34 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your passport is legally the property of whichever country issued it...if you are still in possession of your passport, tell your employer to *beep* off. If your employer has your passport, immediately notify your country's consulate/embassy and make sure your employer knows that he is violating international law (the foundation of which allows for passports to be useful).

As for the prep work...unless you are teaching 1-2 classes a day, I'd try and get out.
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reeshar



Joined: 22 Jun 2007
Location: back home for now

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 2:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks guys, i appreciate it. I have 10-11 classes (around 40-55 minutes each) a day. I am going to try to leg it out of here at the first opportunity, and do some proper research before coming back again. No, the kids have no books, nor do I. It's a nightmare, apparently there have been loads of teachers leaving recently though so I guess that's a bad sign on its own!
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 3:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ten or eleven classes every day? Friend, you are in the clutches of the biggest moron in the country!

Who has your passport right now, you or the boss?
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nomad-ish



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: On the bottom of the food chain

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

reeshar wrote:
thanks guys, i appreciate it. I have 10-11 classes (around 40-55 minutes each) a day. I am going to try to leg it out of here at the first opportunity, and do some proper research before coming back again. No, the kids have no books, nor do I. It's a nightmare, apparently there have been loads of teachers leaving recently though so I guess that's a bad sign on its own!


that's a ton of classes for a day.... instead of flying home, u could always cancel (err..try to anyway) yr E-2 visa on yr way to china/japan and get a tourist visa. come back and get another job and do another visa run (this time for an E-2 under yr new employer).
it's usually easier to find a good job when you're already in korea
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reeshar



Joined: 22 Jun 2007
Location: back home for now

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 3:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i know, it's a gruelling slog to get through, especially for a newbie. I'm getting the hell out of here asap, I think next time I will do a short course/job in Europe first then maybe come back as a tourist as you suggest and find a job that way? It's so annoying, I was so hyped about this before coming here but it's turned into a living nightmare! Ah well, that which doesn't kill you makes you stronger, right?! (hope there's some truth in that!)
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nomad-ish



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: On the bottom of the food chain

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 4:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

reeshar wrote:
i know, it's a gruelling slog to get through, especially for a newbie. I'm getting the hell out of here asap, I think next time I will do a short course/job in Europe first then maybe come back as a tourist as you suggest and find a job that way? It's so annoying, I was so hyped about this before coming here but it's turned into a living nightmare! Ah well, that which doesn't kill you makes you stronger, right?! (hope there's some truth in that!)


if u're definitely heading back home first, getting a tourist visa, finding a job and then doing an E-2 visa run, is probably not the best way (because then u'll have to pay for yr flight over!). i suggested the tourist visa and then the visa run thing if u didn't want to go all the way home and wanted to start a new job right away here.

best of luck! i hope u have yr passport
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bassexpander



Joined: 13 Sep 2007
Location: Someplace you'd rather be.

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 4:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First, get your passport back TODAY.

Second, stop working.

Third, if they refuse to return your passport, call the police and your embassy. I'm very serious about this.

Fourth, walk out of that place and have nothing to do with it.

You are in a sweatshop. Jobs here can suck, but 90 percent of jobs out there will be better than what you've got now.
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bacasper



Joined: 26 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are American, the only people who can legally possess your passport are you and immigration officials of other governments. If you have given your passport to your school, you have done something illegal. Be very careful, there are people on this board who would rat you out.
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htrain



Joined: 24 May 2007

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

bacasper wrote:
If you are American, the only people who can legally possess your passport are you and immigration officials of other governments. If you have given your passport to your school, you have done something illegal. Be very careful, there are people on this board who would rat you out.

Oh god....
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Tjames426



Joined: 06 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 5:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would say the same thing for your original degrees. Never let them out of your sight. They are your property.
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cbclark4



Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan

PostPosted: Mon Nov 05, 2007 6:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

reeshar wrote:
i know, it's a gruelling slog to get through, especially for a newbie. I'm getting the hell out of here asap, I think next time I will do a short course/job in Europe first then maybe come back as a tourist as you suggest and find a job that way? It's so annoying, I was so hyped about this before coming here but it's turned into a living nightmare! Ah well, that which doesn't kill you makes you stronger, right?! (hope there's some truth in that!)


Just get them to fire you.

First get your passport.

Then just walk out of few classes.

If they fire you get it in writing that will serve as your LoR.

If they don't mind you walking out of classes make up your own comfortable schedule.

Find another job, you have ten days to leave the country or find another job, I think with the LoR your visa can be tranferred to the new sponsor?

Good luck.

Do you have acopy of your contract post it here we'll help you.

What's the name of the school?

Where are you located?
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