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brandonviera



Joined: 14 Oct 2007
Location: cheonan

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 6:12 pm    Post subject: Immune System Reply with quote

Okay here goes. I've been in-country for around a year now. Little place near Cheonan. I teach elementary. Pay is fine. Apartment good. Cable connection awesome. Thing is though, I loathe it here. Loathe it to the point where my immune system is breaking down. I've developed allergies and migraines. My body is yelling No! to being here. This bugs me because I'm a calm, rational, pragmatic dude (like most of you). I'm a seasoned ESL gimp. Many years in Asia. Loved Japan (the cuisine, the amorality). Didn't mind China. Enjoyed Vietnam. But Korea's got me stumped. It seems, quite literally, to be killing me.

Now here's why (and I'm hoping newbies out there can learn from my mistakes):

- I failed to develop a social circle
- I got used to being negative
- I never gave the one dimensional food a chance
- I gave up on K-girls after seeing all the church spires
- I stayed in too much
- I started generalising about 'those' Korean people
- I became an ungrateful jerk

Anyway, I'll be leaving come the new year, but I was wondering what coping strategies others have deployed and how good your miserable lives are over here?

Sincrely,
Brandon Viera
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Fishead soup



Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 6:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You need to find some kind of familiar subculture that you were into back home. For me its Punk rock concerts in Skunk Hell in Hongdae.

Also eat a lot of international food the Indian restaurants in Iteawon are great.
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CeleryMan



Joined: 12 Apr 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 6:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Your self-awareness is impressive, now that you've identified the root causes maybe it'd make sense to make some personal improvements?

Good luck and hang in there!
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Dome Vans
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 6:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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You need to find some kind of familiar subculture that you were into back home.


Good advice. I like going out for a couple of drinks at the weekend, watching the football (be it a bit late here), going walking, being alone everyso often, going to the gym, travelling around the country, sleeping, playing football and I love working. I'd do this in any country, these are pretty middle of the road things, so I'm very happy in Korea. And my city only has 25 000 people. Tiny.

A good, uncrowded Drum and Bass club wouldn't go amiss though. Popped into Tinpan alley at the weekend, HELL ON EARTH! TERRIBLE. Maybe I'm just not 18 years old anymore and don't like to be squeezed into a box with 4 000 000 other people, listening to shit music with people dancing on the tables to the shit music. Looking at a lot of miserable people around the bar.

To the OP I live about 30km away from you towards Daecheon Beach. Cheonan is massive compared to where I live, why don't we swap?
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Cognorati



Joined: 09 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think one of the worst things one can do is internalize things and not look at factors beyond your control that could have contributed to everything you mentioned and, in turn, your health.

You seem like an observant and well-adapted individual, which makes me think you are inclined to search for factors you can change and adapt to.

The reality is that the problem is probably Korea, and yes, Korean people.

Demographically, Korea is extremely different from both China and Japan, and it does not have a thriving intellectual or artisic community/culture. The people who come to live and work in Korea are from certain demographics, and may not have the same sensibility or interests as yourself; Korean people are puritanical and the lack of diversity makes them fearful and lacking in curiousity.

All of these things would lead a person who does not fit into the social mileu to be alienated from the people and culture one encounters -- Korea just isn't an appropriate place for you, and the extreme pollution issues probably don't help. It is obviously not likely that one will date or make connections if they just aren't within your interests.

My way of coping, since I've realized I don't have much of a common bond with the people I'm encountering, and feel alienated from the culture, due to racism, is cultivating my interior life and focusing on my spiritual practice (Buddhism). I find that I have lessons to learn about my self, my life, and my mind, that are beyond the delusions and spiritual sickness that surrounds me, here.

Take care of yourself, and leave Korea with your peace of mind...


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jdog2050



Joined: 17 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 6:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I mean...why is this so hard? Do the things you like to do elsewhere.

On the negativity...I actually just made a promise to my girlfriend to cut it out; I started this year very positive, and honestly this year in Korea has been the best ever, but there's been drama at my school that undercuts it.

I'd say really try to focus on the positives, and if you start thinking negatively...well...STOP IT. Korea can be an annoying country, but not so horrible that you just puss out and leave, ya know?

Also, yes, negativity does indeed make you sick.
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nobbyken



Joined: 07 Jun 2006
Location: Yongin ^^

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 7:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My health has been generally low for a while.
Runny noses and such.

Found out yesterday that I had a dust mite allergy. The dust is different here than back home, and when the weather is dry there is a lot more of it. Opening the windows for fresh air can just let in pollution.
Masks help big time.

Thinking I could cope with dust as in my home country, made me feel I had a constant cold in the winter time.

Check you don't have an allergy causing negative feeling in your body.
Are you eating properly?
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venus



Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: Near Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:20 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fishead soup wrote:
You need to find some kind of familiar subculture that you were into back home. For me its Punk rock concerts in Skunk Hell in Hongdae.

Also eat a lot of international food the Indian restaurants in Iteawon are great.


No offense Fisheadsoup - But you don't realise this guy is trolling and taking a dig at peeps who don't gush about their lives here...?

Seeing the sudden rush of simillar threads bashing all the 'nagative / ungrateful / whiners / people who have issues with Korea threads recently - I'm suspecting brandonvierra, Koreandefence and The Rooster are all one man's puppet theatre show.

I might try that soon. I think could be fun replying to and talking to your own socks...
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The_Eyeball_Kid



Joined: 20 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:28 pm    Post subject: Re: Immune System Reply with quote

brandonviera wrote:
Okay here goes. I've been in-country for around a year now. Little place near Cheonan. I teach elementary. Pay is fine. Apartment good. Cable connection awesome. Thing is though, I loathe it here. Loathe it to the point where my immune system is breaking down. I've developed allergies and migraines. My body is yelling No! to being here. This bugs me because I'm a calm, rational, pragmatic dude (like most of you). I'm a seasoned ESL gimp. Many years in Asia. Loved Japan (the cuisine, the amorality). Didn't mind China. Enjoyed Vietnam. But Korea's got me stumped. It seems, quite literally, to be killing me.

Now here's why (and I'm hoping newbies out there can learn from my mistakes):

- I failed to develop a social circle
- I got used to being negative
- I never gave the one dimensional food a chance
- I gave up on K-girls after seeing all the church spires
- I stayed in too much
- I started generalising about 'those' Korean people
- I became an ungrateful jerk

Anyway, I'll be leaving come the new year, but I was wondering what coping strategies others have deployed and how good your miserable lives are over here?

Sincrely,
Brandon Viera


They have amorality in Japan?! I love amorality!
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samd



Joined: 03 Jan 2007

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

venus wrote:

Seeing the sudden rush of simillar threads bashing all the 'nagative / ungrateful / whiners / people who have issues with Korea threads recently - I'm suspecting brandonvierra, Koreandefence and The Rooster are all one man's puppet theatre show.

I might try that soon. I think could be fun replying to and talking to your own socks...


So people who have good things to say about Korea or people who get anoyed by whiners are trolls now? Add me to the list.
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venus



Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: Near Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:33 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

samd wrote:
venus wrote:

Seeing the sudden rush of simillar threads bashing all the 'nagative / ungrateful / whiners / people who have issues with Korea threads recently - I'm suspecting brandonvierra, Koreandefence and The Rooster are all one man's puppet theatre show.

I might try that soon. I think could be fun replying to and talking to your own socks...


So people who have good things to say about Korea or people who get anoyed by whiners are trolls now? Add me to the list.


No. But each of those poster's threads display little actual knowledge of Korea and rather that they are in the initial stage of culture shock known as 'rose tinted specs syndrome.' Just read though some of their posts, anyone been here a while and knows the type will know what I mean.. Everything is positivepositivepositive and thay are unable to see or handle hearing about any negativity towards their new rosy paradise. Out of touch.
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Dome Vans
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

venus wrote:
samd wrote:
venus wrote:

Seeing the sudden rush of simillar threads bashing all the 'nagative / ungrateful / whiners / people who have issues with Korea threads recently - I'm suspecting brandonvierra, Koreandefence and The Rooster are all one man's puppet theatre show.

I might try that soon. I think could be fun replying to and talking to your own socks...


So people who have good things to say about Korea or people who get anoyed by whiners are trolls now? Add me to the list.


No. But each of those poster's threads display little actual knowledge of Korea and rather that they are in the initial stage of culture shock known as 'rose tinted specs syndrome.' Just read though some of their posts, anyone been here a while and knows the type will know what I mean.. Everything is positivepositivepositive and thay are unable to see or handle hearing about any negativity towards their new rosy paradise. Out of touch.


So rather than give them the benefit of the doubt that they may just be positive people you just label them as 'not having realised something about Korea' yet. Why if you are being positive about somewhere would you want to read nagative things, talk about trying to drag you down with the others. As they say misery loves company!
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ardis



Joined: 20 Apr 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:48 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

venus wrote:
samd wrote:
venus wrote:

Seeing the sudden rush of simillar threads bashing all the 'nagative / ungrateful / whiners / people who have issues with Korea threads recently - I'm suspecting brandonvierra, Koreandefence and The Rooster are all one man's puppet theatre show.

I might try that soon. I think could be fun replying to and talking to your own socks...


So people who have good things to say about Korea or people who get anoyed by whiners are trolls now? Add me to the list.


No. But each of those poster's threads display little actual knowledge of Korea and rather that they are in the initial stage of culture shock known as 'rose tinted specs syndrome.' Just read though some of their posts, anyone been here a while and knows the type will know what I mean.. Everything is positivepositivepositive and thay are unable to see or handle hearing about any negativity towards their new rosy paradise. Out of touch.


I don't think that's true. My friends and I came here after college and we're having a great time, but it's not as if we can't see the problems Korea has. However, we're also not pessimistic people that would be miserable no matter where we go (as it seems with many of the posters here)--we make our own good times in any given situation. Not all newbies have star shining in their eyes as they gush of the glory of a new country--some of us are a wee bit more balanced than that.
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SPINOZA



Joined: 10 Jun 2005
Location: $eoul

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 9:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always realize how superior my stock is when people start catching the Autumn and Winter colds. Everyone else is coughing, sneezing, spluttering - all of them dying, sick and deformed. I had a bit of a sore throat and a sniffle for one day.
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Scotticus



Joined: 18 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Nov 07, 2007 10:06 pm    Post subject: Re: Immune System Reply with quote

The_Eyeball_Kid wrote:

They have amorality in Japan?! I love amorality!


Amorality is the absence of morals (in contrast to immorality, which would be having morals but doing things consciously in spite of them). Whatever the poster meant by "amoral," I'd say it's a very good word to describe Japan.
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