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[Summer Wine]

Quote:

The British government won a parliamentary vote on Monday over plans to introduce national identity cards, giving Prime Minister Tony Blair victory in the first of two major tests of his authority this week.

I am not sure that I really agree with this, is it really practical. Also is it the future in other countries too.

[Wangja]

Ah yes, but don't you see it's part of the "war on terrorism"?

Can you not see that the events of 7 July would not, nay could not, have happened had the ID cards been in force?

The logic of this mystifies me of course as 80% of perpetrators operate under their own identity.

Yet one more invasion of privacy, degradation of rights, in the name of "security".

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[Wangja]

Sorry, one more thought, borrowed from the Telegraph ....

[igotthisguitar]

Further implementation of "MATRIX" SOCIETY technology under the pretext of "protecting" the public from the "bad guys" ( i.e. THOSE "terrorists" ) ...

Absolute control & "PANOPTICON" surveillance.

Death of freedom.

Death of privacy.

England is increasingly becoming more of a Big Brother ( i.e. TOTAL "INFORMATION" AWARENESS )

What would Orwell have said?

Happy happy? Double-plus-good

http://www.theedgefiles.com/interviews/Clarified_The_Edge_Alan_Watt_First_Hour.mp3

http://www.theedgefiles.com/interviews/Clarified_The_Edge_Alan_Watt_Second_Hour.mp3

http://www.cuttingthroughthematrix.com/

[sly54]

And it will just give the cops and other agencies a futher excuse to hassle those already discriminated against like black people, young people and muslims. Whilst doing diddly squat to prevent terrorism. Another example of Blairs crusade against basic freedoms. And soon you won't even be free to pollute other peoples lungs. Glad to be out of the place.

[Privateer]

It would be good if the entire population just ignored the law and they had to junk the whole scheme in a year or 2...

[Wangja]

Well, it's not compulsory but when you want a new or replacement passport, you have to get an ID card.

[Privateer]

[igotthisguitar]

Federal Plan for ID Cards Drawing Criticism
The new technology, required by law, hikes costs and raises risks of identity theft, some say.

By Evan Halper, Times Staff Writer
SACRAMENTO — When Congress rushed passage of the "Real" ID Act last spring,
the idea was to foil terrorists

http://www.latimes.com/news/local/la-me-realid20feb20,0,2101662.story?coll=la-headlines-california

[Hollywoodaction]

Canada will probably have a national ID, too.

http://travelcanada.sympatico.msn.ca/TravelNews/ContentPosting.aspx?contentid=e8afddf32d9e4603a9977d877617424d&show=True&number=5&showbyline=False&subtitle=&detect=&abc=abc

Actually, we kind of need it because there are so many people who commit welfare and medicare fraud. I used to work for the government and I caught so many people collecting far more welfare or pension than they should because they had several social insurance numbers.

[Wangja]

It's still a mystery to me how benefit fraud will be magically reduced by the introduction of ID cards.

[Hollywoodaction]

[igotthisguitar]

[igotthisguitar]

UK Big Brother Has Eye On ID Card Refusniks
Eliminates opportunity for stay of execution

Paul Joseph Watson/Prison Planet.com | April 4 2006

Any UK citizen who refuses to be marked as cattle of the state and carry a national ID card must leave the country before 2008 or face fines and prison sentences as the government cracks down on refusniks.



Up until now Britons were able to renew their passports for periods of ten years at any time. This meant that many (including me) were planning to renew right before it became compulsory to be issued with an ID card when renewing your passport in 2008, giving us ten years of ID free existence.



The government has put the brakes on such tactics by simply announcing, with no debate or legislation, that passports can now only be renewed for 9 months in advance.

[Bulsajo]

Can we leave off damned the Prison Planet links for once?
Why post from spurious websites when there is good material to be found elsewhere?


http://www.privacy.org/pi/activities/idcard/idcard_faq.html
This report provides an analysis of the key aspects of identity (ID) cards and related technologies. It has been prepared by Privacy International in the wake of widespread concern across the world about the implications of modern ID systems. Our intention here is to discuss the evidence at an international level and to promote debate about the claims made about such card systems.

The principle author of this report is Simon Davies, Director General of Privacy International and Visiting Fellow in the London School of Economics. Assistance and input to this report was provided by members of PI throughout North America, Europe and Asia.


http://www.cippic.ca/en/faqs-resources/national-id-cards/
National ID cards are a hot topic in Canada and other countries thinking about introducing a nationwide uniform identification document. Especially since the terrorist attacks in Washington and New York and the ongoing 'fight against terrorism', national ID cards have risen to the top of the agenda in immigration and security departments all over the world. Further fuel to the discussion is added by the increasing problem of fraud crimes related to the misuse of personal information, commonly called 'identity theft'.

However, national ID cards are also associated with fears of social control, surveillance and loss of privacy and individual freedom. An ID card regime will likely entail a database containing personal information of everyone bearing the card and could include biometric identifiers. This leads to questions like: What personal information is collected and how is it protected? Who can demand to see the ID card and for what reason? Who can query the database? And how much does it all cost?

This section of the CIPPIC website addresses issues surrounding national ID cards and its implications for society and the rights of individuals.