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Freakstar



Joined: 29 Jun 2007

PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:01 am    Post subject: I'll never drive in Korea Reply with quote

If the following is true, I will never drive in Korea! Shocked


Why I Don�t Drive in Korea and You Shouldn�t Either
by Brendon Carr


I�ve been living here in Korea for more than a decade since I graduated law school, and during that time I haven�t driven a car.

Somehow I stumbled across the Korea Beat weblog, which features high-quality translations from the Korean press (apparently as a study aid for the blogger) and the occasional lurid cheesecake photo�thanks for that!�and read a translation that perfectly captures why I don�t drive. It�s definitely recommended reading.

Korea handles automobile accidents according to an odd �blame-sharing� concept whereby both parties are always deemed to have some fault in the accident. The usual apportionment is 60-40. What this means is that the driver who caused the accident bears 60% of the responsibility (and therefore cost), and the driver who simply got crashed into gets stuck with 40% of the responsibility on some cockamamie theory that had he not been operating a motor vehicle he would not have gotten into the accident. So the 60% driver pays 60% of the damages incurred by the driver he struck, but receives from the driver he struck an offsetting payment of 40% of the 60% driver�s damages.

This concept on liability is so different from what Westerners are accustomed to and expect that a foreign victim of an accident is usually stunned at the weirdness of it all.

We had a client and friend, an avid motorcyclist, who got himself struck by a bus�from behind, after the bus blew through a red light. Our friend was still deemed 20% responsible for the accident even though he spent weeks flat on his back laid up in the hospital, and had to pay the bus company some settlement for its damages (this was offset against what the bus company owed him, of course).

The translated article at Korea Beat notes one absurdity that follows from the blame-allocation method followed here. If a driver of an expensive car recklessly smashes into a driver of an affordable car, that 60-40 split usually means that the �guilty party� has much greater damages. Luxury autos here run about W100,000,000�if that car is totalled through its driver�s recklessness and stupidity, the victim would have to pony up W40,000,000 for repair costs. If the victim�s car is worth, say, W10,000,000 and is totalled, the luxury-car driver pays only W6,000,000 for those damages.

So the innocent driver gets his car totalled and receives a bill for W34,000,000 from the guy who hit him. If his insurance policy limit is less than this, the net result of the accident is cash out of pocket for the innocent driver.

Add to that the equally frightening concept of criminal responsibility in all cases of personal injury by vehicle (I might write more on this in the future), and I am absolutely not interested in getting behind the wheel of a car. My office is a W1900 (basic flagfall) fare from my home, so my daily commute cost is only five bucks anyway.

Here�s the business-lawyer twist at the end: One of the common benefits to expatriate managers here in Korea is a company-furnished car and driver. That seems extravagant to an outsider, and as a lawyer who handles a lot of employment matters I get asked about the car-and-driver demand all the time. In my opinion, Korean law makes a car and driver (and a big insurance policy limit!) a very good idea for anyone who can afford it. (In essence, that�s what I do with the short-to-mid-distance taxis.) The time that one loses in the case of an accident is potentially too much of a distraction from getting the job done.

And going to jail for a simple car accident is something totally unexpected to an expat. You can�t get much work done from jail.
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Tokki1



Joined: 14 May 2007
Location: The gap between the Korean superiority and inferiority complex

PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try driving in Taiwan. If you think it's bad here you've got a lot to see.
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Qinella



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It seems illogical on the face of it, but Mr. Carr makes a fatal mistake: he uses the term "innocent driver". Essentially, the policy is designed around the fact that 98% of Korean drivers comprise the top 1% of the worst drivers in the world, thereby justifying an assumption that there is no such thing as an innocent driver. At one time or another, virtually every Korean person you see behind the wheel of a vehicle has pulled a stunt that either caused a wreck, nearly caused a wreck, or maimed/killed a pedestrian.

The purpose of the law is to provide delayed retribution to those who had it coming.
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Tokki1



Joined: 14 May 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Qinella wrote:
It seems illogical on the face of it, but Mr. Carr makes a fatal mistake: he uses the term "innocent driver". Essentially, the policy is designed around the fact that 98% of Korean drivers comprise the top 1% of the worst drivers in the world, thereby justifying an assumption that there is no such thing as an innocent driver. At one time or another, virtually every Korean person you see behind the wheel of a vehicle has pulled a stunt that either caused a wreck, nearly caused a wreck, or maimed/killed a pedestrian.

The purpose of the law is to provide delayed retribution to those who had it coming.


That's crap. Spend some time in Taiwan. Find out what it means to be frightened of being anywhere near a road.

Korean drivers are the safest in Asia. I say that chortling but it's true.
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Qinella



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 9:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know.. I heard the drivers in Taiwan are pretty bad, though..
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Tokki1



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 10:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Qinella wrote:
I don't know.. I heard the drivers in Taiwan are pretty bad, though..


Pretty bad? Jesus....no words can...just go there...
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jaganath69



Joined: 17 Jul 2003

PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 11:33 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sold my car last weekend. Ran up the back of a Bongo truck (from a standing start, doing 5kph max at the time) and it cost me 600 000. Apparently the guy had to go to hospital. Never again.
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BigBuds



Joined: 15 Sep 2005
Location: Changwon

PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 12:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tokki1 wrote:
Qinella wrote:
It seems illogical on the face of it, but Mr. Carr makes a fatal mistake: he uses the term "innocent driver". Essentially, the policy is designed around the fact that 98% of Korean drivers comprise the top 1% of the worst drivers in the world, thereby justifying an assumption that there is no such thing as an innocent driver. At one time or another, virtually every Korean person you see behind the wheel of a vehicle has pulled a stunt that either caused a wreck, nearly caused a wreck, or maimed/killed a pedestrian.

The purpose of the law is to provide delayed retribution to those who had it coming.


That's crap. Spend some time in Taiwan. Find out what it means to be frightened of being anywhere near a road.

Korean drivers are the safest in Asia. I say that chortling but it's true.


Not a hope in hell. Japanese drivers are a hell of a lot better than Korean drivers and are polite too.
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seoulsucker



Joined: 05 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 12:04 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Outside of Japan, you can't put the words "safe" and "driver" next to each other in any Asian country.

"Impatient" and "inconsiderate" and "wreckless" are another story.
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as-ian



Joined: 04 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 12:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I never have had any major problems with driving in S.Korea. However, it does take a degree of patience to deal with the aggressive style of driving here and skill to avoid the stupidity of some drivers. But then again, every country has its areas that just seem to be infested with idiotic drivers. ^^
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jaganath69



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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

as-ian wrote:
I never have had any major problems with driving in S.Korea. However, it does take a degree of patience to deal with the aggressive style of driving here and skill to avoid the stupidity of some drivers. But then again, every country has its areas that just seem to be infested with idiotic drivers. ^^


Yeah, but here they don't give the slightest consideration to the fact that their bali-bali mentality might kill someone. Idiot is one thing, recklessly endangering the lives of others without giving a hoot is another altogether.
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as-ian



Joined: 04 Sep 2007
Location: Busan, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 1:42 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

jaganath69 wrote:
Yeah, but here they don't give the slightest consideration to the fact that their bali-bali mentality might kill someone. Idiot is one thing, recklessly endangering the lives of others without giving a hoot is another altogether.


Well, yes, that does coincide with the aggressive style of driving that is used here. Although, it is no different then when i was driving in New York City. Minus the fact that no one would drive up on the sidewalk, NYC is just like driving through Seoul. Atleast, for me. ^^
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Col.Brandon



Joined: 09 Aug 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 2:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

seoulsucker wrote:
"wreckless"
LOL
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Paddycakes



Joined: 05 May 2003
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 3:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Korea still only has a 1st generation driving culture... remembers private automobiles are relatively new in Korea, unlike North America.

Give them another 50 years to catch up and get some experience, and maybe, just maybe... the Koreans may become as good as the Japanese.... maybe...
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normalcyispasse



Joined: 27 Oct 2006
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PostPosted: Wed Sep 12, 2007 3:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Tokki1 wrote:
Qinella wrote:
I don't know.. I heard the drivers in Taiwan are pretty bad, though..


Pretty bad? Jesus....no words can...just go there...


Huh -- I've been to Taiwan and it didn't seem all that bad. It was far worse in the Philippines and in Indonesia.
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