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Which hagwon has the worst reputation in Korea poll.
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Which hagwon has the worst reputation in Korea?
Wonderland
58%
 58%  [ 43 ]
Kids Herald
4%
 4%  [ 3 ]
EWHA ALS
0%
 0%  [ 0 ]
(S)lave (L)abor (P)rogram
8%
 8%  [ 6 ]
St. Andrew's
17%
 17%  [ 13 ]
LCI Kid's Club
5%
 5%  [ 4 ]
Kids College
6%
 6%  [ 5 ]
Total Votes : 74

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garykasparov



Joined: 27 May 2007

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:27 am    Post subject: Which hagwon has the worst reputation in Korea poll. Reply with quote

This is for statistical purposes only. Feel free to add comments that will educate new teachers.
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Treefarmer



Joined: 29 May 2007

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 11:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't go to Khan
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cubanlord



Joined: 08 Jul 2005
Location: In Japan!

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 2:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thread won't make it far as those names are big players in putting money into old Dave's pockets. Shoot, if I were running this joint, this thread would be removed immediately.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 3:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cubanlord wrote:
This thread won't make it far as those names are big players in putting money into old Dave's pockets. Shoot, if I were running this joint, this thread would be removed immediately.


I would still disagree with your decision.
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garykasparov



Joined: 27 May 2007

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 3:37 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cubanlord wrote:
This thread won't make it far as those names are big players in putting money into old Dave's pockets. Shoot, if I were running this joint, this thread would be removed immediately.


Dave will always find revenue from other schools. I would not want to be associated with schools that violate teachers rights on a consistant basis. Why shouldn't they be exposed?
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Fishead soup



Joined: 24 Jun 2007
Location: Korea

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only Wonderland has created the best selling novel.
Escape from Wonderland.
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oxfordstu



Joined: 28 Aug 2004
Location: Bangkok

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 4:54 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah I voted Wonderland as well --- plenty of horror stories. I'm surprised Little America isn't up there. I had a collegue that worked there and she claims that they made her change diapers between classes.
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garykasparov



Joined: 27 May 2007

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 5:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oxfordstu wrote:
Yeah I voted Wonderland as well --- plenty of horror stories. I'm surprised Little America isn't up there. I had a collegue that worked there and she claims that they made her change diapers between classes.


How much was she paid to change diapers?
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Son Deureo!



Joined: 30 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fishead soup wrote:
Only Wonderland has created the best selling novel.
Escape from Wonderland.


And let's not forget about the Geojedo "Wonder School" Wink in Shawn Matthews' memoir Island of Fantasy.

I had a pretty horrendous experience with a Kid's Herald School, so bad that even the teachers from the SLP and the Wonderland up the street felt bad for us. Still, I voted for Wonderland as having the worse reputation because it's the only place I've ever known to expect their FTs to keep teaching while the hogwon was on fire.

Wonderland is not the only craptacular hogwon chain to inspire the muse, another school entirely (not a poll option) managed to inspire the literary masterpiece I Came to in Geumhodong by Dave Hazzan. It's available here, you can buy it in softcover or download it for free.
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Whistleblower



Joined: 03 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Son Deureo! wrote:
Still, I voted for Wonderland as having the worse reputation because it's the only place I've ever known to expect their FTs to keep teaching while the hogwon was on fire.


Laughing

Why am I not surprised? A Wonderland Hagwon on fire and the teachers forced to teach.

Imagine that the hagwon got gutted and the students and teachers died, now that would have made headline news. But I imagine that the burden of blame would be on the deceased teachers rather than the Korean staff with a school like Wonderland!
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garykasparov



Joined: 27 May 2007

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 3:55 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I suspected Wonderland would get the most votes.
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Atavistic



Joined: 22 May 2006
Location: How totally stupid that Korean doesn't show in this area.

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 4:05 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Was it really a novel?
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garykasparov



Joined: 27 May 2007

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 5:15 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Atavistic wrote:
Was it really a novel?


I Came To In Geumho-dong

(a novel)

by Dave Hazzan


http://www.lulu.com/items/volume_46/646000/646510/3/print/646510.pdf?fForceSave=1

Page 17

The next night it got worse. James�s life in Korea had gone from great to fine to bad over the year. When he had agreed to the second contract two months earlier it had been with the hope Kommandant Chang would mellow out, but she didn�t. She got worse and James was starting to believe Stacey was right. Hegemon didn�t care if Kommandant Chang offended everyone and made the hagwan miserable. Why would he? The Korean teachers, many of whom had next to no grasp of English, were easily replaced. So what if the school had a higher turnover rate than McDonald�s? With no jobs for grads,

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new hagwans not paying and the economy tanking into a SARS and Iraq war fuelled bottomless pit, there were always new Korean teachers. The foreign teachers, paid more than lawyers but chained to their classrooms thanks to their E-2 visa regulations, weren�t going anywhere. So Kommandant Chang could stay. Plus along with Kommandant Chang was his dislike of Hegemon, the long hours and split shifts, the dearth of marijuana, his weight which was increasing, his tolerance for Korean idiosyncrasies which was decreasing and his inability to get laid. It all made him mad.
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Julius



Joined: 27 Jul 2006

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 6:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wonderland. Even a brief interview there felt like a trip behind the iron curtain: surveillance cameras everywhere, and the contract reserved the right to rob you of more money than you actually ended up with.

But how could you leave out Ding Ding Dang? A massive chain specialising in split shifts, tyrannical bosses, a "reward bad behaviour policy" and safe home to the worst delinquents Korean society can produce.
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some waygug-in



Joined: 25 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Oct 10, 2007 2:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.geocities.com/slphell/index2.html

Good for a laugh or two.
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