Site Search:
 
Speak Korean Now!
Teach English Abroad and Get Paid to see the World!
Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index Korean Job Discussion Forums
"The Internet's Meeting Place for ESL/EFL Teachers from Around the World!"
 
 FAQFAQ   SearchSearch   MemberlistMemberlist   UsergroupsUsergroups   RegisterRegister 
 ProfileProfile   Log in to check your private messagesLog in to check your private messages   Log inLog in 

namdaemun grey market map

 
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Technology Forum
View previous topic :: View next topic  
Author Message
swigs



Joined: 20 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 2:50 am    Post subject: namdaemun grey market map Reply with quote

There used to be a map of the N grey market in the camera sticky, but the link is broken know.

I learned my lesson by going to Yongson thinking I could 'figure it out' with out a map. This will save me a day if some one can tell me where the hot spots are for cameras via map or good directions.

I'm open to regular markets or grey markets.

Feel free to give any shotouts to recomendations of locations or DSLRs...

I'm looking for a somewhat compact DSLR if possible, with a small lens. Which I will mainly use for landscapes and portraits.

Then eventually I would like to buy a telephoto lens as well.


Cannon I think is the best overall, but I am willing to look at other brands for smaller size...

The one thing I'm worried about is getting a DSLR with out image stablization (but there is one model I am interested in w/o it). Does anyone use a DSLR with out image stablization? Can you take alright zoomed in pictures via hand held?

Also what telephoto lenses do you recomend? mm-mm?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

search DSLR and author superdave.

lots of great stuff and links to his buyers guide for cameras in Korea.
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/search.php?mode=results

http://www.davidsmeaton.com/index.php/2007/09/super-daves-korean-camera-buying-guide/

.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
swigs



Joined: 20 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Fri Oct 24, 2008 6:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks ttompatz...

I know there are quite a bit of photographers on this website, just wasn't sure if anyone had a specific map like you had for yongsan. I will try david's picture by picture walk though.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
superdave



Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: over there ----->

PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 5:30 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

i don't think there's a gray market per se ... all of the sellers stock gray market kit because if they don't then they will lose business.

of course, the only place you can't get gray market is through authorised distributors like nikon and canon.

in korean, gray market is called nae soo, but these days they often say bee jong poom. so ask the seller if it's nae soo and he'll tell you.

jong poom is genuine import, bee jong poom is gray market ...

make sure you have a ballpark figure for prices too. www.danawa.com is good for that.

good luck

cheers

david
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger
swigs



Joined: 20 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 5:49 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks again.

Yeah, I did check out danawa.com's website for pricing guidance before going. And it helped. Just not enough for my silliness mentioned in the other thread. Sad

On the up side though; I love the camera. And it's not like I paid full MSRP for the camera, but still a good bit more than I should have. I usually consider myself a better shopper. Oh well.

Again, thanks for sharing the information though!!

My advice to any other shoppers out there is to never buy from the first shop you go to. They will smell that and then take advantage of that; make sure you shop around to other stores before even thinking about making a purchase. I checked danawa, but that wasn't enough; I should have gone to all of the stores in the area first before going to the ATM. Always be polite, but never be ignorant to their tactics.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
nosmallplans



Joined: 10 Oct 2008
Location: noksapyeong

PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 4:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

don't worry about image stabilization in the body so much as in the lens. a lens stabilization system works far more effectively than a body system can.

if size is really a priority (backpacking, climbing, etc) then i would suggest something like a ricoh gr digital ii or canon g9 (or whatever the latest variant is) as they'll give you near dslr quality with a far more compact size. moving up from there a three fourths system or micro three fourths system camera will be quiet small and perfectly usable tripod-mounted but lacks a really good IS lens. from there you're basically working with full size dslrs.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website AIM Address
superdave



Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: over there ----->

PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 10:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

swigs wrote:
My advice to any other shoppers out there is to never buy from the first shop you go to. They will smell that and then take advantage of that; make sure you shop around to other stores before even thinking about making a purchase. I checked danawa, but that wasn't enough; I should have gone to all of the stores in the area first before going to the ATM. Always be polite, but never be ignorant to their tactics.


good advice.

personally, i go to the ATM first ... i keep enough cash in my pocket to cover my purchase. going to the ATM may be a good idea to give you thinking time and cooling off time ... but if you know what you want and the price you'll pay, then i like to carry the cash with me.

one good tip is to use the seller's greed against them.

1. when you get to haggling, and the price is reasonable, pull the cash out of your pocket and count it ... let them see the money.

2. ask them for the price again, as if you're just checking cause you have a poor memory.

3. then say 'ahhh' and put the cash back in your pocket.

4. follow that up by saying 'mmm, i might look around a bit more first'.

5. if you have a friend with you 'discuss' the choices ... like thinking that its wise to check other shops. someone might have a lower price. your friend agrees and you start to look like heading for the door.

6. usually, the seller will give a better price. they've seen your money, they don't want to lose the sale. haggle down to a better price.

7. if they don't lower their price, then walk out. you can't bluff if you're not prepared to walk away.

importantly, smile and be good natured. say thanks and bye.

it always works ...
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger
blackjack



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: anyang

PostPosted: Sun Oct 26, 2008 11:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://map.indm.net/map_eng.htm

heres a good one
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
swigs



Joined: 20 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 2:43 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the map blackjack.

Superdave, great tips. Advice taken.

Nosmallplans: Good info, I appreciate it. I ended up going ahead with the four thirds lens system. Previous to owning a DSLR I had (still have) a superzoom canon s5 is, which I was impressed with(great price on it too). But I was ready to upgrade to a real DSLR camera. The S5 did have the ability to have full manual functions, and its lens was not bad considering how small it was.

If I had the money I would get the IS in the lens, but having IS in the body is more cost effective for me at the moment. I still want to play around with a bunch of lens; but I like the idea of quick photography on the go, which IS enables. I want to carry around a camera with me everywhere, but maybe not a tripod. Although, I would like to get a monopod. My DSLR and lens at the moment are small and light enough to carry around in a nylon bag pretty easily.


By the way:
Does anyone have good tips on buying used lenses? Any thing a new buyer should look out for? And if buying a new lens, how do you know they are not selling you a used camera lens as new?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
superdave



Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: over there ----->

PostPosted: Mon Oct 27, 2008 11:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

swigs wrote:
Does anyone have good tips on buying used lenses? Any thing a new buyer should look out for? And if buying a new lens, how do you know they are not selling you a used camera lens as new?


there's a lot of trust involved here ... but i think namdaemun is mostly honest. they may try to swindle you, but they won't lie to you outright. you've got a better chance of them switching lenses and ripping you off in yongsan's dungeons.

all new lenses will have a box, etc. the used lenses are always in the window or under the counter on display.

the biggest concern is fungus. you have to make sure the lens is clean of mould and such. take both caps off and open the lens to the widest aperture and look through it. see if the view is clean.

give the lens a shake and listen for unwanted rattling sounds.

then put the lens on your camera and give it a thorough test. test it at all zoom ranges, test it at various apertures. test that it focuses quickly and isn't noisy. look for marks and spots on the photos.

when you buy stuff, always take the store's business card and keep it somewhere at home. then, if you get a lens that wasn't working properly, you can take it back and tell the store owner to fix it.
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website Yahoo Messenger MSN Messenger
joeheckel



Joined: 13 Oct 2008
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 8:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I see the map that Blackjack had provided. Is there a map with this type of functionality to it for all the Seoul? The Seoul Governmental map is not very good and often hangs up. I am going to be in the Mapo-gu region and could really use something to get around.
Thanks in advance
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Send e-mail
blackjack



Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: anyang

PostPosted: Fri Nov 07, 2008 11:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

joeheckel wrote:
I see the map that Blackjack had provided. Is there a map with this type of functionality to it for all the Seoul? The Seoul Governmental map is not very good and often hangs up. I am going to be in the Mapo-gu region and could really use something to get around.
Thanks in advance


Have you tried google earth?
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
swigs



Joined: 20 Apr 2008

PostPosted: Mon Nov 10, 2008 9:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

blackjack wrote:
joeheckel wrote:
I see the map that Blackjack had provided. Is there a map with this type of functionality to it for all the Seoul? The Seoul Governmental map is not very good and often hangs up. I am going to be in the Mapo-gu region and could really use something to get around.
Thanks in advance


Have you tried google earth?


Naver has a map function, thats what most Koreans use. But you have to know Korean pretty well. The Seoul Governmental map is probably your
best bet. Last time I checked google earth did not really have too much information on it for Korea. (Other than great satellite maps)
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message
maingman



Joined: 26 Jan 2008
Location: left Korea

PostPosted: Fri Nov 14, 2008 10:22 pm    Post subject: , Reply with quote

anyone maybe with map for /of line 1/ north east seoul, area and for going towards the feckin airport quite soon - let me know

thanks !
Back to top
View user's profile Send private message Visit poster's website
Display posts from previous:   
Post new topic   Reply to topic    Korean Job Discussion Forums Forum Index -> Technology Forum All times are GMT - 8 Hours
Page 1 of 1

 
Jump to:  
You cannot post new topics in this forum
You cannot reply to topics in this forum
You cannot edit your posts in this forum
You cannot delete your posts in this forum
You cannot vote in polls in this forum


This page is maintained by the one and only Dave Sperling.
Contact Dave's ESL Cafe
Copyright © 2018 Dave Sperling. All Rights Reserved.

Powered by phpBB © 2001, 2002 phpBB Group

TEFL International Supports Dave's ESL Cafe
TEFL Courses, TESOL Course, English Teaching Jobs - TEFL International