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garykasparov
Joined: 27 May 2007
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 8:43 pm Post subject: U.S. deserters lose bid for Canada refugee status |
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U.S. deserters lose bid for Canada refugee status
OTTAWA/TORONTO (Reuters) - Two Americans who deserted the U.S. Army to protest against the war in Iraq lost their bid for refugee status in Canada on Thursday, and the Canadian government made it clear they were no longer welcome.
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The Supreme Court of Canada declined to hear appeals from the two men, Jeremy Hinzman and Brandon Hughey, over decisions by immigration authorities -- backed in two subsequent court rulings -- that they were not refugees in need of protection.
Opposing the war on the belief that it was illegal and immoral, the two deserted when they learned their units would be deployed to Iraq, and came to Canada.
If deported to the United States, they say they face a court martial and up to five years in prison.
During the Vietnam War, Canada was a haven for tens of thousands of draft dodgers and deserters. But Hinzman and Hughey were volunteers rather than conscripts.
Their backers urged the government to let them stay in Canada anyhow, but this met with little sympathy from Ottawa.
"Canadians want a refugee system that helps true refugees," said Mike Fraser, spokesman for Citizenship and Immigration Minister Diane Finley.
"All refugee claimants in Canada have the right to due process and when they have exhausted those legal avenues we expect them to respect our laws and leave the country."
He declined to comment on whether active steps would be taken to deport the two men to the United States. In any case, it could still take months before they can be sent away, said Lee Zaslofsky of the War Resisters Support Campaign.
"They won't be deported tomorrow; there is a process," said Zaslofsky, himself a Vietnam War deserter. He said the immigration department would ask if the two men want to do a "pre-removal risk assessment," which can take months.
An immigration spokeswoman, Karen Chadd-Evelyn, said such an assessment would judge whether in the United States they would be at risk of torture, death or cruel and unusual punishment or treatment.
They can also apply for permanent residence in Canada on humanitarian or compassionate grounds.
The War Resisters Support Campaign, aware of some 55 deserters who have come to Canada since 2004, said they would press for a political way to let the deserters stay.
"It's up to (politicians) if they want to give resisters access to Canada, as they did during the Vietnam War," Michelle Robidoux said in the group's small Toronto office.
The small opposition New Democratic Party said it would introduce a motion calling on the House of Commons immigrations committee to hold immediate hearings on the issue.
Meanwhile, one stratagem appeared to be for resisters to use the legal system to enable them to stay longer in Canada.
One deserter who still hopes to stay is Kimberly Rivera, from Mesquite, Texas. She came to Canada in February with her husband and two small children while on a two-week army leave, after spending three months on security duty in Iraq.
Despite the Supreme Court's refusal to hear the Hinzman and Hughey appeals, Rivera said she plans to continue filing court appeals in her own case. "I'm sure it's going to be denied but at least it gives us more time here," she said.
(Editing by Janet Guttsman)
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 9:13 pm Post subject: |
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Wow. Go to Canada and clog their court system to buy some time. VERY classy. |
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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 5:49 am Post subject: |
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Major criminal forces have for years now been working hard at promoting the conflict in the middle east.
Likely the same network of psycho-paths who helped orchestrate 9/11. |
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sundubuman
Joined: 04 Feb 2003 Location: seoul
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:29 am Post subject: |
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I wish Canada would take in these folks. |
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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:37 am Post subject: |
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I betcha there's a LOT more who've become refugees north of the border, and now esp. aren't likely going to be popping up any time soon
One more reason to micro-chip all enlisted soldiers i guess, eh?
GPS would be able to round em all up quickly enough. |
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 7:44 am Post subject: |
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igotthisguitar wrote: |
Major criminal forces have for years now been working hard at promoting the conflict in the middle east.
Likely the same network of psycho-paths who helped orchestrate 9/11. |
Dude, you've just completely jumped off the rails of reality. If you're in Korea, relax. The mental health treatment you obviously need is covered by the National Health Insurance. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003 Location: Established in 1994
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 3:08 pm Post subject: |
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Dude, you've just completely jumped off the rails of reality. |
This is a long-running condition with IGTG. He serves as our in-house reality check. We know we are fine as long as his posts seem flakey. He's not alone in this role, but he doesn't take it personally, unlike others, when this is pointed out.  |
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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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CentralCali
Joined: 17 May 2007
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:40 pm Post subject: |
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Romney was a missionary. That is not draft-dodging. IGTG yet again demonstrates that facts are a foreign language to him. |
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igotthisguitar

Joined: 08 Apr 2003 Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Posted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 6:46 pm Post subject: |
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CentralCali wrote: |
Romney was a missionary. That is not draft-dodging. |
A Mormon-Freemason bound on pro-sel-y-tizing infidel & un-"saved" sinners, yes?
So how long did he spend doing his thing ... "missionary" style? |
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