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Huge 'Ocean' Discovered Inside Earth
Ker Than LiveScience Staff Writer
LiveScience.com
Fri Mar 2, 3:05 PM ET

Scientists scanning the deep interior of Earth have found evidence of a vast water reservoir beneath eastern Asia that is at least the volume of the Arctic Ocean.

The discovery marks the first time such a large body of water has found in the planet�s deep mantle.

The finding, made by Michael Wysession, a seismologist at Washington State University in St. Louis, and his former graduate student Jesse Lawrence, now at the University of California, San Diego, will be detailed in a forthcoming monograph to be published by the American Geophysical Union.

Looking down deep

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http://news.yahoo.com/s/livescience/20070302/sc_livescience/hugeocean

discoveredinsideearth;_ylt=AjQbksoH2.yf1_h3ZpZSJvADW7oF

[VanIslander]

Not in the Americas somewhere? Damn!

Maybe an Alaskan pipeline could be built.

The Americans are chompin' at the bit to get at Canada's fresh water and Canada doesn't wat to give it up, as once you start selling it then the WTO and other trade agreements will make trade barriers nearly impossible. It's a natural resource but more importantly, essential to our rivers and lakes!

Could there be huge water supplies under the Americas somewhere?

Fresh water is the oil of the future.

[mindmetoo]

So those hollow earth nazis were right!

[Junior]

[mindmetoo]

[igotthisguitar]

[mateomiguel]

[Rteacher]

Here's an excerpt from an interesting article that presents both some Vedic perspective (or at least some speculation based on Vedic literature...) and fairly modern accounts such as the following:

...They soon met with ice packs and had to carefully negociate their craft among them. Olaf relates that had their boat been any larger, they would not have been able to fit between the icebergs. After about a month of such negociation, the ice disappeared and marvelously, they found themselves in open water, just a few degrees from the pole! This does not correspond to our typical concept of the Polar areas, which we imagine are covered by a solid ice sheet/cap. But actually, practically all the Polar explorers of yesteryear reported open waters near the Poles, and a whole phenomenon called " Polar warming." This results when warmer air from the interior of the planet is expelled from openings near the Poles. At any rate, the two continued on in this way, in open waters, for various weeks.

As they worked their way Northwards, they of course, kept their eyes on the Sun, which was behind them and low on the horizon, following its Equatorial path. At this time, an unusual sighting was made by them, one which has also been made by two of the most notable Artic explorers of all time- Lt. Greely and Nansen. Greely's explorations were taken so seriously that he was eventually promoted to the rank of General in the United States Army, while Nansen was knighted by the crown of Norway. What the boy and his father actually sighted was another, alternate Sun shining ahead of them! Its disk was smaller, and its color was distinctly more reddish than our own Sun, but there it was. They sailed in the direction of this alternate Sun and, as the nose of their craft angled down along the curvature of the Polar opening, the alternate Sun rose higher and they kept it in view as they entered.

Conmeasurately, the larger Sun visible on the surface disappeared from view and sank permanently from the horizon. The Artic exploreres Lt. Greely and Nansen did not quite have this experience as they did not continue into the opening- they seem to have angled down one side of the bowl-like entrance and curved back up again. Consequently, there are those who deem the Sun of these explorers to be a reflection or mirage, but as Olaf and his father followed a route to the interior of the planet, the alternate Sun came clearly into view and stayed.

As they worked their way further in they came to the shoreline of a continent and followed it. They noticed huge trees and mammoths twice the size of elephants. At one point they crossed paths with what the Olaf described as a gigantic ship, bigger than any he had ever imagined. Of course, this was in the 1820s. It seemed to him to be some type of cruise or excursion ship because the decks were flooded with people singing songs in a jolly mood. The two voyagers were met by occupants of the ship and taken aboard. They found themselves in the company of humans of giant stature, the shortest being maybe 12 feet tall!

They were given a welcome treatment in the hollow Earth; they toured the kingdoms of Shamballa the Lesser and Shamballa the Greater. Their boat was taken from city to city and displayed as an object of curiosity and marvel, a midget craft of the tiny men who had wandered in from the surface...
http://www.vnn.org/editorials/ET9912/ET05-5029.html

[mindmetoo]

[Rteacher]

The Vedas have been intrepreted variously, and there are hundreds of volumes of Vedic literatures - not just one "holy book"...

And what "mindmetoo" has quoted from my post is not taken from the Vedas at all, but is based on records from 19th century Arctic expeditions.

Here's one devotee scientist's explanation of the Vedic calculation of the moon's distance from earth - which is actually in the ballpark range of modern scientific estimates:

...The following questions and answers are taken from "Vedic Cosmography and Astronomy" by Dr. Richard L. Thompson ...

Q: Using radar and lasers, scientists have recently obtained very accurate estimates of the earth-moon distance. This distance is about 238,000 miles. How do you reconcile this with Vedic calculations?

A: According to Surya-siddhanta [see footnote], the distance from the earth globe to the moon is about 258,000 miles. This is in reasonable agreement with the modern value.

Q: The Vedic literature says that the moon is higher than the sun. How can this be?

A: In Chapter 22 of the Fifth Canto, the heights of the planets above the earth are given, and it is stated that the moon is 100,000 yojanas above the rays of the sun. In this chapter, the word "above" means "above the plane of Bhu-mandala". It does not refer to distance measured radially from the surface of the earth globe. In Section 4.b we show that if the plane of Bhu-mandala corresponds to the plane of the ecliptic, then it indeed makes sense to say that the moon is higher than the sun relative to Bhu-mandala. This does not mean that the moon is farther from the earth globe than the sun.

For example, if point A is in a plane, B is 1,000 miles above the plane, and C is 2,000 miles above the plane, we cannot necessarily conclude that C is further from A than B is...

Maybe it would help to take a look at the big picture:

http://geocities.com/caitanyamahaprabhu/moonthing7.htm

[Nowhere Man]

[mindmetoo]

Bzzt. Wrong.

http://science.krishna.org/Articles/2000/08/00082.html

[Rteacher]

That particular website (krishna.org) is run by sort of a renegade Krishna devotee who hustled to get that domain name and posts all sorts of old articles along with his own outspoken views...

The particular article your quoting from was written shortly after the first lunar mission by a nice devotee with good writing skills but no particular training in science. The figure that he gave was based on an interpretation of Vedic cosmology that was conventionally accepted by many in the Hindu community at the time.

The scientific arm of the International Society for Krishna Consciousness is the Bhaktivedanta Institute, and the Richard Thompson (aka Sadaputa das) article I sited is more an official current view. The Bhaktivedanta Institute hadn't been formed yet at the time of the lunar missions...

The main official sites of the Krishna Consciousness movement are Krishna.com, Iskcon.com, BBT.com, and a few others. From time-to-time, I selectively link to articles from several independent Vedic-oriented/devotee sites (like Krishna.org) according to where my google searches lead me. Frankly, I don't recall posting that old article here - I must have been half asleep if I did...

By the way, the dates that he puts on his articles only indicates when they were first posted on his Krishna.org website - many were originally published over 35 years ago ...

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Everybody got your water wings?