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Will a stint w/ Westgate help me get a better job in Korea?

 
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fakeplastiktree



Joined: 15 Oct 2007
Location: Northeast Seoul

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:22 pm    Post subject: Will a stint w/ Westgate help me get a better job in Korea? Reply with quote

Hi!

I'm wondering what people's opinions are on this...

My ideal is to land a university gig in Korea but a) I have no masters and b) I have no teaching experience.

I'm going to be getting my CELTA in January and I'm just wondering if doing a three-month contract with Westgate in Japan would be enough to get a uni job.

Thoughts?

Thanks! Smile

P.S. Yes, I know there are a ton of threads about Westgate in the International forum.
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mrsquirrel



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 1:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No
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Mosley



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Nov 21, 2007 4:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, it certainly won't.

And if you've researched Westgate it might be reasonably asked why you'd take a job w/those *beeps*.
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fakeplastiktree



Joined: 15 Oct 2007
Location: Northeast Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 12:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Okay, thanks.
I didn't really like the sound of Westgate, for the record.....It was just the allure of it being short-term and potentially helpful in getting into a university faster.
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matthews_world



Joined: 15 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 2:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Westgate is very competitive.

I had a bachelor's, good references and teaching experience and couldn't get in the door.

Don't forget all of the recent NOVA bankruptcy and lay-offs there, some 3-5,000 extra teachers currently overheating the job market there.

Definitely get a CELTA and/or masters.
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TECO



Joined: 20 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

do the master's.
celta will make you a better classroom teacher.

but university profs / committees doing the hiring don't care about celta - they want to see a relevant master's.

that's cute that you asked if Westgate might give you a leg up on university positions!
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TECO



Joined: 20 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 6:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

matthews_world wrote:
Westgate is very competitive.

I had a bachelor's, good references and teaching experience and couldn't get in the door.

That's why you didn't get the job. Westgate, or NOVA, doesn't want experienced instructors who think for themselves. Thinking for yourself is dangerous in companies like NOVA or Westgate, GABBA, etc. In fact, I'd wager that if you had indicated that you had "No teaching expereince" but were "Willing to learn" you might have had a better shot at landing a job with them.
matthews_world wrote:

Don't forget all of the recent NOVA bankruptcy and lay-offs there, some 3-5,000 extra teachers currently overheating the job market there.

Yeah, curious to know what these people are doing - did they all get jobs, go home, come to Korea or Taiwan? That's a lot of people. Are there that many jobs available for 4,000 teachers at one time?

matthews_world wrote:
Definitely get a CELTA and/or masters.

Great advice!
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venus



Joined: 25 Oct 2006
Location: Near Seoul

PostPosted: Thu Nov 22, 2007 9:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

CELTA means nowt here. It would get you one point higher on the public school pay scales, but that's about it. Same goes for most of Asia. Guy I knew at a hakwan I once worked at had one and was on 2 mil, same as moi who had no CELTA.


MA in anything can get you in a uni job, if it is in English however or especially TEFL / Applied Linguistics, you might be able to cherry pick.
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