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szlogan
Joined: 25 Nov 2007
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 Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:58 am Post subject: Recruiter - Jun education. |
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any good/bad experience from anyone?
just curious on how reputable they are...
Thanks S. |
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ttompatz
Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:15 am Post subject: Re: Recruiter - Jun education. |
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| szlogan wrote: |
any good/bad experience from anyone?
just curious on how reputable they are...
Thanks S. |
Please let me repeat an old post of mine.
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Really, when it comes to a recruiter, who cares?
A recruiter is nothing more than an introduction to an employer.
Hello Mr. English speaker this is Mr Hakwon owner.
Mr. hakwon owner, this is Mr. English speaker.
Mr. English speaker, here is the contract. Please read and sign.
School, here is the signed contract. Pay me.
Good bye.
-You are not paying them anything (or you shouldn't be).
-THEY DO NOT WORK FOR YOU! - They work for the school.
-They owe you nothing once you get here.
-They are not your friend.
-They are not your baby sitter.
-They cannot help you if things go to *beep* after you get here.
Beyond that it is YOUR responsibility to check the school out.
Do NOT trust ANY recruiter. They are like used car salesmen. They will lie and sell their soul to get the signature on the contract.
Take the introduction, read the contract, get a 2nd opinion or look in the contract sticky to see what should and should NOT be in the contract.
Do your own DUE DILLIGENCE in regards to the school or get burned.
Use the recruiters for what they are. Use more than one and keep going until you get what you want. There is no rush and there is certainly no shortage of jobs.
When it comes to the school - again - repeat - Do your own DUE DILLIGENCE.
1st - READ the contract over very carefully. If that doesn't scare you away then...
The best you can do is minimize the risk by talking to MORE THAN ONE of the foreign staff and ask POINTED AND SPECIFIC QUESTIONS (*when the boss is NOT listening over their shoulder). Don't accept non-specific answers and broad generalizations.
No foreign staff references to talk (directly and via e-mail) to = walk away now.
Accept NO EXCUSES for any reason.
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Sincinnatislink
Joined: 30 Jan 2007
Location: Top secret.
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:06 am Post subject: |
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Just talk to as many recruiters as you can. They all will throw awful jobs at you. For example, one of the jobs that I was initially offered. 10 hour days. 2.1 million a month. Oh yes, plus flyering outside a couple times a week. They really thought someone who'd been here 8 months would take that.
No thanks.
Sooner or later, something will come up that won't suck. Your odds might be better if you are talking to a bunch of recruiters.
This is how I got my current job, and I am darned happy.
And yes, talk to a current teacher. Some bosses will get snippy. That might be a warning flag, but not a dealbreaker. It's if they flat-out refuse, you walk.
Just get a number, and make it clear to the current teacher that they're speaking entirely confidentially.
Also, double-check location. Every single interview I had moved at least one subway stop away from where I listed as my ideal (if it was even near a subway) in the course of hearing about a job and going to interview for it. In the current situation, it was not clear to me that I was going to work in Wondang, INCHEON until the ink was dry on my contract. Oops. |
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