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Gwangjuboy
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 Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:07 am Post subject: British Criminal Background Check Thread |
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| I think we need to create several of these threads for the different countries that are represented here otherwise it gets confusing. I just noticed a Canadian one so I thought I would start this one. For Brits there are two background checks you can apply for yourself. One is the subject access check and the other is the basic disclosure. (It is impossible to get a standard or enhanced disclosure over here because your employer has to apply directly with your consent) Which one have you applied for and do you think they will both be equally acceptable to immigration? I have already started the application process for the basic disclosure. In terms of cost I think there is a ten pound difference between the two. It might even be worth make this (and other threads like it as they emerge) a sticky. |
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Sapa
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:34 am Post subject: |
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| Good idea. Most of the other topics seem to be covering it from an American or Canadian perspective. I would also be interested in knowing about what we need to get notarized and how to go about it. |
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mrsquirrel
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:46 am Post subject: |
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| How can a normal citizen get a basic disclosure? |
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chrisaldred53
Joined: 07 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:28 am Post subject: Re: British Criminal Background Check Thread |
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| Gwangjuboy wrote: |
| I think we need to create several of these threads for the different countries that are represented here otherwise it gets confusing. I just noticed a Canadian one so I thought I would start this one. For Brits there are two background checks you can apply for yourself. One is the subject access check and the other is the basic disclosure. (It is impossible to get a standard or enhanced disclosure over here because your employer has to apply directly with your consent) Which one have you applied for and do you think they will both be equally acceptable to immigration? I have already started the application process for the basic disclosure. In terms of cost I think there is a ten pound difference between the two. It might even be worth make this (and other threads like it as they emerge) a sticky. |
I am British. You are right. We have 2 choices. Either an enhanced disclosure from the CRB (Criminal Records Bureau) or Subject Access requesting "information held about you on the National Police Computer (NPC)". The CRB check is the daddy as it checks lots of different databases for information about you. But a licensed institution can only apply for individuals and not individuals. It also takes much longer. I started a teaching course in september, which i quit, and needed one for that and it took 3 months. We Brits basically have only one option which is SUBJECT ACCESS. Contact your local police. They will send you a form or direct you to a site on their web site where you can download it. Accompany your application with some ID and 10 quid and you are away.
Application can not legally take longer than 40 days to process. I applied for this about 30 days ago so should be getting mine soon.
If the Subect Access is not good enough for Korean immigration then Brits are screwed. I am sure it will be sufficient though! |
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mrsquirrel
Joined: 13 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:49 pm Post subject: |
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| ^ Why did you quit the PGCE? |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:20 pm Post subject: Re: British Criminal Background Check Thread |
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| chrisaldred53 wrote: |
| We Brits basically have only one option which is SUBJECT ACCESS. Contact your local police. They will send you a form |
There are four criminal background checks in the UK.
1. Basic Disclosure
2. Standard Disclosure
3. Enhanced Disclosure
4. Subject Access Check
For the purposes of working in Korea we can obtain 1 or 2. |
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GerryTulip
Joined: 14 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:29 pm Post subject: |
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This is from an email I sent to cbscreening.co.uk
Will you be able to provide me with a standard disclosure without details of an employer. I am moving to work in South Korea at the end of this year and need this for my visa. I am as yet unsure as to which type of check they will need, if it is just a basic disclosure then I know it is relatively straight forward to request one but if a standard disclosure is needed could you please explain how I would be able get one?
Their reply . . .
You would be better off contacting your local police station and requesting a PNC (Police National Computer) check. It will cost approximately �10.00 and will detail all information required for Visa applications.
So it looks like just your bog standard PNC check is needed. |
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GerryTulip
Joined: 14 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:33 pm Post subject: |
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| Sapa wrote: |
| Good idea. Most of the other topics seem to be covering it from an American or Canadian perspective. I would also be interested in knowing about what we need to get notarized and how to go about it. |
Assuming the document has been issued by the relevant UK Police authority then the charge will be �64.60 inclusive of vat and return delivery by standard first class post. If you prefer we return the document by Royal Mail Special delivery then there would be a further charge of �11.75 inclusive.
Typically it takes 5 to 7 working days to legalise this type of document.
If you are happy to proceed please print our order form available here - http://www.apostille.org.uk/order-an-apostille.asp and post with the document to our address in Coventry.
If you have any further questions please let me know.
Thank you.
Kind regards
Steve Harris
Client Services |
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mrsquirrel
Joined: 13 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:24 pm Post subject: |
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| ^ Robbing basturds. THat is nearly as much as the UK embassy charges for notarizing things. |
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mrsquirrel
Joined: 13 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:36 pm Post subject: |
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I still have my original subject access check from March.
Wonder it that will be OK since i've been in the country since then or will that logic fail them.
Hope they don't demand them from the Thai police as well. THey can take up to six months to appear. |
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Gwangjuboy
Joined: 08 Jul 2003
Location: England
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 4:54 pm Post subject: |
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| GerryTulip wrote: |
This is from an email I sent to cbscreening.co.uk
Will you be able to provide me with a standard disclosure without details of an employer. I am moving to work in South Korea at the end of this year and need this for my visa. I am as yet unsure as to which type of check they will need, if it is just a basic disclosure then I know it is relatively straight forward to request one but if a standard disclosure is needed could you please explain how I would be able get one?
Their reply . . .
You would be better off contacting your local police station and requesting a PNC (Police National Computer) check. It will cost approximately �10.00 and will detail all information required for Visa applications.
So it looks like just your bog standard PNC check is needed. |
It is IMPOSSIBLE to obtain standard or enhanced criminal background checks for the purposes of working abroad. You can go for the subject access check OR the basic disclosure. (I called the basic disclosures office in Scotland and they confirmed this)
http://www.disclosurescotland.co.uk/
I would like to know whether they are both equally acceptable because I have already applied for a basic disclosure and not the subject access check. |
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mrsquirrel
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:04 pm Post subject: |
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I didn't think we were allowed the basic disclosure without an organisation applying for it.
Have to look into it. |
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Gwangjuboy
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:09 pm Post subject: |
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| mrsquirrel wrote: |
I didn't think we were allowed the basic disclosure without an organisation applying for it.
Have to look into it. |
We can't do the standard disclosure or the enhanced disclosure. Those checks are handled by the CRB. The basic disclosure is handled by another outfit; Disclosures Scotland. You can look at the link I just gave. They also confirmed that I can apply myself. They have already sent me the application forms. |
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mrsquirrel
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:17 pm Post subject: |
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Just read that.
Not sure what the difference is between that and the ten quid one. |
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Dome Vans
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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| mrsquirrel wrote: |
Just read that.
Not sure what the difference is between that and the ten quid one. |
The Disclosure Scotland one is basically telling you:
Basic Disclosures
A Basic Disclosure (termed as a "criminal conviction certificate" in Part V of the Police Act 1997) is the lowest level of Disclosure and is available to anyone for any purpose, on payment of the appropriate fee. It contains details of convictions considered unspent under the Rehabilitation of Offenders Act 1974 or state that there are no such convictions. This type of Disclosure is only issued to the applicant. It is not job-specific or job related and may be used more than once.
The subject access one is:
Section 7 of the Data Protection Act 1998 states that a "data subject" (the person about whom the personal data refers) is entitled, upon written request, to be informed whether or not personal data is held or processed about them.
If personal data is being held or processed, the "data subject" is allowed to be given;
* A copy of the personal data held.
* The reasons why the data is being held or processed
* Information as to what other bodies the information may be passed on to.
Hopefully the second is sufficient. I have the subject access. But hopefully they'll only be needed when applying for new jobs not resigning. Unless you're running an illegal beer racket in the basement of the school.
Agree with Mrsquirrel and the idea that there doesn't seem to be any point having another check done, if you haven't left Korea since you last had one done. |
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