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evilchiapet



Joined: 22 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:24 am    Post subject: Midnight Run Reply with quote

Howdy All....

Not a great topic to start with....

but I am considering doing a midnight run.

Some issues have arisen at the hogwon and I do not want to get too much into it, but it's not a pretty thing. I've been here 6 weeks and things have gone from bad to worse.

Anyway, given all that I've read it doesn't seem to terribly difficult getting out of Korea, but would it be "easier" if I flew to Japan, or some other area that is relatively close, cashed in my Korean Won for Japanese currency, hung around for a few days and then fly back to the USA from Japan (purchasing online tickets).

I would be able to get out of the country faster if I were taking a flight to say, Japan...would that make a difference? I am planning to leave right after payday. This would leave me with a lot of dough (I am paid in cash)...or is it easier to just try cashing in my won once I get to the states?

Thanks for any tips .

I'd rather not get into the problems at the hogwon, but they are serious enough to warrant my leaving.

Thanks in advance,,
ECP
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Otherside



Joined: 06 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 8:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wait for payday and leave on the next saturday.
Boss won't know what hit him till Monday.

I didn't really get why you want to go to Japan, but if you leave on a weekend you should have plenty of time to get your ducks in a row.

You will get a better exchange rate changing your money in Korea. For simplicity I would do it at the airport (rate is a little worse, but they wont ask questions and if we are talking a month's salary, the loss due to the exchange rate will be no more than about $10-15, not worth getting your panties tied up over that).

It might be tempting to leave right after payday and there is little your boss can do to stop you, but giving yourself the weekend to do everything will be worth quite a bit in terms of peace of mind - I hope payday is a Friday!
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evilchiapet



Joined: 22 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In order for me to change WON at the airport, won't I have to show receipts showing that I changed the money initially, or use paycheck stubs (vs, changing Won to some other currency for "travel/vacation" purposes?

We don't get paycheck stubs at this school. Just a dollar figure written on a post it note and cash in an envelope. Our pay day is the 5th of each month but May's pay comes early (the Friday) because of the holiday.

I guess I just want to plan it so that I'm out of Korea by the time they figure out I'm gone (hopefully already landed somewhere...).

Will immigration question me as to why I am leaving? Will they believe me if I say something to effect of a sick parent, etc... or do they just not care.
I've been so stressed out, I don't think I can endure a lengthy interrogation.

I thought by going to Japan it would look like I was taking a weekend vacation...think it's a waste of time? Should I just hop a flight for the states?

Quivering,
ECP
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ontheway



Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...

PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 9:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can exchange your money at a regular bank, if you have time, on the Friday before you leave. Unless your amount is over 10 million won you shouldn't have any trouble. They may stamp the amount in your passport, but you are allowed to wire or take out 10k without proof that you earned it.

Do you have your ARC (Alien Registration Card)? If so, you will need to hand that in as you leave.

You might as well take a direct flight back to the US. Once you exchange your money, hand in your ARC and pass pass airport immigration check, it doesn't matter where you're going.

What's your big issue with your school?
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bejarano-korea



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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In order for me to change WON at the airport, won't I have to show receipts showing that I changed the money initially, or use paycheck stubs (vs, changing Won to some other currency for "travel/vacation" purposes?


Nope, or they didn't when I changed my cash at Incheon last month.

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and We don't get paycheck stubs at this school. Just a dollar figure written on a post it note cash in an envelope. Our pay day is the 5th of each month but May's pay comes early (the Friday) because of the holiday.


See - this is the kind of crap we put up with - they do that so the 'pay slip' it is unable to become a legal document if you want to make an investigation to the labour board about if they have been paying into your pension and medical.

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I guess I just want to plan it so that I'm out of Korea by the time they figure out I'm gone (hopefully already landed somewhere...).

Will immigration question me as to why I am leaving? Will they believe me if I say something to effect of a sick parent, etc... or do they just not care.
I've been so stressed out, I don't think I can endure a lengthy interrogation.


They asked when I was leaving and I said 'Because I'm leaving a crappy hagwon with an effed up boss' and he just laughed saying its a common complaint before cancelling my visa, make sure you have your ARC card with you though because they will fine you if you don't have it.

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I thought by going to Japan it would look like I was taking a weekend vacation...think it's a waste of time? Should I just hop a flight for the states?

Quivering,
ECP


Japanese immgration were a pain in the arse but they let me through - I hopped off straight off the plane from Heathrow and went to Japan on a visa run - The suitcase was left with my recruiter, I took my luggage bag and I packed it full of met-rx protein drink and a change of clothes so when the Japanese customs official wanted to have a look inside my luggage bag and saw 50 packs of met rx! When he enquired about why I had one change of clothes and 50 packets of protein drink I had to say 'oooh I'm bringing them over for a mate' Laughing He let me through though!
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evilchiapet



Joined: 22 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I haven't been here long enough to get an ARC card (my boss said we'd do the immigration visit the second week of May...I wanna be gone before that day comes : )

Also, I tend to get about $1,000.00 in those $100.00 Korean Coupons (substitute for the 100 bill). Do you think I would have a problem changing those at an airport? I would have about $3,0000 to change...not close to the 10,000. I'm worried about getting stuck w. 1G of Korean coupon money that I can't change.

The issues with the school are numerous from my contract subjects/hours being changed (to a god awful schedule to compensate for the FTs that've left and never been replaced, to being told that I have to teach subjects other than English ( I am an English teacher..), extremely disruptive kids to whom I'm told I cannot discipline or deal consequences to because the parents will send them to another school if they are unhappy, yadda yadda...the list goes on (and the shady way taxes are being withheld from me, but not being paid for me, etc....).

same ole' same ole.

I have a credit w. china airlines too, so I thought I might be able to use that to get outta here. : (
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bejarano-korea



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 10:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

evilchiapet wrote:
I haven't been here long enough to get an ARC card (my boss said we'd do the immigration visit the second week of May...I wanna be gone before that day comes : )

Also, I tend to get about $1,000.00 in those $100.00 Korean Coupons (substitute for the 100 bill). Do you think I would have a problem changing those at an airport? I would have about $3,0000 to change...not close to the 10,000. I'm worried about getting stuck w. 1G of Korean coupon money that I can't change.

The issues with the school are numerous from my contract subjects/hours being changed (to a god awful schedule to compensate for the FTs that've left and never been replaced, to being told that I have to teach subjects other than English ( I am an English teacher..), extremely disruptive kids to whom I'm told I cannot discipline or deal consequences to because the parents will send them to another school if they are unhappy, yadda yadda...the list goes on (and the shady way taxes are being withheld from me, but not being paid for me, etc....).

same ole' same ole.

I have a credit w. china airlines too, so I thought I might be able to use that to get outta here. : (


Coupons? Never heard of coupons... I always got paid into the bank so I don't know to be honest. I do know you need your ARC card unless you have a muliple entry visa or else they will fine you - I think it is 200,000 won.

Has this boss been paying you in coupons? Name this pricks hagwon mate! So no-one else has to fall to the same fate!

Hagwons? I will never ever deal with another hagwon again! Though I think a shot at Japan is an excellent idea! I loved Japan the short time I was there!
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evilchiapet



Joined: 22 Mar 2008

PostPosted: Wed Apr 23, 2008 11:03 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It says Multiple Entry on my Visa. I haven't been here long enough to have an alien card.

The coupons are those things the ATM spit out because it doesn't have $100.00 bill. The boss taps his ATM to pay me....

I don't have a Korean bank account.

You can use the coupons like cash at stores, etc.. They look like travelers checks (number and such on them).

I guess I can always run around and make little purchases to use them up. (an entire Sat. will be spent doing this since banks are not open on Saturdays here...).

Yikes.
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