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thepeel
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 Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 6:49 pm Post subject: Clinton trails top 2008 Republicans |
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WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Democratic front-runner Hillary Clinton trails five top Republican presidential contenders in general election match-ups, a drop in support from this summer, according to a poll released on Monday.
Clinton's top Democratic rivals, Barack Obama and John Edwards, still lead Republicans in hypothetical match-ups ahead of the November 4, 2008, presidential election, the survey by Zogby Interactive showed.
Clinton, a New York senator who has been at the top of the Democratic pack in national polls in the 2008 race, trails Republican candidates Rudy Giuliani, Mitt Romney, Fred Thompson, John McCain and Mike Huckabee by three to five percentage points in the direct matches.
In July, Clinton narrowly led McCain, an Arizona senator, and held a five-point lead over former New York Mayor Giuliani, a six-point lead over former Tennessee Sen. Thompson and a 10-point lead over former Massachusetts Gov. Romney.
She was not matched against the fast-rising Huckabee, a former Arkansas governor, in the July poll.
The results come as other national polls show the race for the Democratic nomination tightening five weeks before the first contest in Iowa, which kicks off the state-by-state nomination battles in each party. |
http://www.reuters.com |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 7:40 pm Post subject: |
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| We're doomed if Clinton wins the D nomination. The Republicans will eat her for lunch. Which means we will have another 4 years of a Republican in the WH. |
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thepeel
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 7:44 pm Post subject: |
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| It would be a dream for them I reckon. I'm sure they are sitting on years dirt for just this event. I hope the Dems wake up. I want to respect America again. |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:13 pm Post subject: |
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| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
| We're doomed if Clinton wins the D nomination. The Republicans will eat her for lunch. Which means we will have another 4 years of a Republican in the WH. |
...as if it makes much difference. |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:26 pm Post subject: |
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| bacasper wrote: |
| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
| We're doomed if Clinton wins the D nomination. The Republicans will eat her for lunch. Which means we will have another 4 years of a Republican in the WH. |
...as if it makes much difference. |
Unfortunately, that's the type of attitude that got us where we are today. It's sad, but true. |
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loose_ends
Joined: 23 Jul 2007
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:36 pm Post subject: |
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| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
| bacasper wrote: |
| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
| We're doomed if Clinton wins the D nomination. The Republicans will eat her for lunch. Which means we will have another 4 years of a Republican in the WH. |
...as if it makes much difference. |
Unfortunately, that's the type of attitude that got us where we are today. It's sad, but true. |
care to expand on that? I think many would disagree with your statement. |
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Czarjorge
Joined: 01 May 2007
Location: I now have the same moustache, and it is glorious.
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| Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 9:49 pm Post subject: |
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What's with all "the sky is falling" attitude over Hillary? Didn't people say that the hubby couldn't win a second election before it even started?
Why would Hillary have a fighting chance? Because her husband is possible the most brilliant, and definitely the most accomplished politician in the last 30 years. Say what you will about Bill, he is one hell of a politician. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 12:22 am Post subject: |
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I googled in 'Clinton polls' and found articles that don't agree with the OP.
Here's one of them:
11/26/07
George Bush beat John Kerry by 20% in Kentucky during the 2004 presidential election and beat Gore by 15% in 2000. But if the 2008 presidential race is between Rudy Giuliani and Hillary Clinton, Clinton would win Kentucky 48% to 44% increasing her lead from 2% in October according to the latest Survey USA poll.
Clinton leads against all Republican candidates in Kentucky.
New Mexico was a tight race in both 2000 and 2004 and Hillary Clinton holds leads against all Republican candidates except for John McCain.
Go to the state polls pages for Kentucky and New Mexico to learn more.
Couple this information with yesterday's info on the Democrats gaining an advantage in Indiana and its starting to look like a Democrat will be sworn into the White House in 2009. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:17 pm Post subject: |
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thepeel, your polling data doesn't match pollingreport.com's.
Gallup has her beating every GOP candidate. So does Fox. So does Cook. So does NBC/Wall Street. So do CNN, Newsweek, and ABC. |
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Milwaukiedave
Joined: 02 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:14 pm Post subject: |
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| loose_ends wrote: |
| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
| bacasper wrote: |
| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
| We're doomed if Clinton wins the D nomination. The Republicans will eat her for lunch. Which means we will have another 4 years of a Republican in the WH. |
...as if it makes much difference. |
Unfortunately, that's the type of attitude that got us where we are today. It's sad, but true. |
care to expand on that? I think many would disagree with your statement. |
More are more people are becoming apathetic about who runs the country and how it is done in my opinion. I have talked to many people who do care, but am still shocked how many could careless what happens.
As to the criticism of Hillary Clinton, I personally think she's bought and paid for by big business and don't trust her. Yes, her husband is brilliant and I voted for him twice. I've read both of their autobiographies. That being said, it's not that I don't think she's capable, but she is the wrong person. I also strongly believe the Republicans want nothing more then Clinton to be the D nominee and have been waiting for years to go at her full throttle.
A nasty divisive campaign is not what we need. I have a feeling though that's where we are headed. |
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thepeel
Joined: 08 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 7:21 pm Post subject: |
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| Milwaukiedave wrote: |
More are more people are becoming apathetic about who runs the country and how it is done in my opinion. |
That is because most people intuitively know that governments represent clients, and the "people" are not a client. It doesn't matter who is in power as long as those clients are still being represented.
loose_ends sent me a quote from Chomsky about an unrelated matter, but I think it fully fits here.
Discussing blind faith in our governments:
...if you're a well-educated, respectable type, it (your government being dishonest and immoral) can't occur to your mind. For the 70 percent of the population who don't have the benefits of a good education, they can see it. Because it's obviously true.
It is obviously true. |
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Ya-ta Boy
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
Location: Established in 1994
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| Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:47 am Post subject: |
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| More are more people are becoming apathetic |
When I read articles reporting polls saying 75% of Americans think the country is on the wrong path, I can't agree with the quote. I think people care very much about how the country is run. I think the frustration level is extremely high. And it is just under a year away from the presidential election.
But no, I don't think people are apathetic at all. |
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