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Howard Roark
Joined: 02 Feb 2003
Location: Canada
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 Posted: Sun Oct 12, 2003 9:32 pm Post subject: 5 Day work week is coming...Bad news for teachers? |
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There has been a lot of discourse recently about the 5 day work week. I was able to keep track it for a while because one of my students wanted to read articles on it every day.
To offset the 5 day week, which will be affective for many companies next July, public holidays will be decreased.
Won't this be a bad thing for English teachers? Considering most of us already work 5 days a week. We will be just losing holidays and not getting anything in return.
Could this result in extra vacation time or pay raises? |
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weatherman
Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 12:36 am Post subject: |
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For the hogwon system, this is great, for it means more free time to spend in the private classrooms of Korea.....  Wonder if it could be done, work a bunch on the weekends and have the rest of the week off? |
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kangnamdragon
Joined: 17 Jan 2003
Location: Kangnam, Seoul, Korea
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| Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2003 10:31 pm Post subject: |
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I heard hogwons are thinking of more Saturday classes as students won't be going to school on Saturdays.
No, we won't be compensated for losing holidays, just like we aren't compensated if a holiday falls on a Saturday or Sunday, as a lot of them do next year. |
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Joe Thanks
Joined: 01 Oct 2003
Location: Dudleyville
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| Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 6:29 am Post subject: Re: 5 Day work week is coming...Bad news for teachers? |
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| Howard Roark wrote: |
There has been a lot of discourse recently about the 5 day work week. I was able to keep track it for a while because one of my students wanted to read articles on it every day.
To offset the 5 day week, which will be affective for many companies next July, public holidays will be decreased.
Won't this be a bad thing for English teachers? Considering most of us already work 5 days a week. We will be just losing holidays and not getting anything in return.
Could this result in extra vacation time or pay raises? |
Koreans are now doing what they did in Taiwan: rob the people of what few national holidays they have by �instituting" a five day work week for the minority of workers and making hard on everyone instead of simply working on improving efficiency among workers.
You bet we �the teachers � will get stung and nothing will change except smaller vacations, contracts that often benefit the employer (6 days a week at 45 hours a week for the pay you get now for 5 days a week at 30-40 hours) and little else.
Hustle and bustle on the peninsula will get worse during weekends and holidays and everyone will suffer for that. Most Korean nationals working 5 day weeks have it and very few will benefit from this, considering most wont� get it and the few that do will still work (unpaid, usually) on Saturdays because it�s what the chaebul ordered (unofficially).
This is as �logical� as moving the international airport to Incheon.
Cheers,
Joe |
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Gord
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 6:37 am Post subject: Re: 5 Day work week is coming...Bad news for teachers? |
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| Joe Thanks wrote: |
| Koreans are now doing what they did in Taiwan: rob the people of what few national holidays they have by �instituting" a five day work week for the minority of workers and making hard on everyone instead of simply working on improving efficiency among workers. |
Minority of workers? You must be new here, most workers in Korea are on the 5.5 day work week.
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| This is as �logical� as moving the international airport to Incheon. |
Are you aware of the issues involved in trying to expand the Gimpo airport and the problems that were solved by moving most of the Internation flights to the new airport? Take your pick of social, economic, weather, or any other problem area that had things fixed up. |
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Joe Thanks
Joined: 01 Oct 2003
Location: Dudleyville
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| Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 12:04 pm Post subject: Re: 5 Day work week is coming...Bad news for teachers? |
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| Minority of workers? You must be new here, most workers in Korea are on the 5.5 day work week. |
I must be old here, since I was in Korea possibly before your time.
Again - MINORITY. Most work 6. "5.5 days" is semantic b. s. it's STILL 6 in reality.
A MINORITY get 5 days a week and a MINORITY will benefit from this.
What planet do you come from?
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Are you aware of the issues involved in trying to expand the Gimpo airport and the problems that were solved by moving most of the Internation flights to the new airport? Take your pick of social, economic, weather, or any other problem area that had things fixed up. |
Are you aware you tow the country�s b. s. line, especially when it�s wrong?
I don�t care to play devil�s advocate games with you.
Joe |
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Gord
Joined: 25 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 6:45 pm Post subject: Re: 5 Day work week is coming...Bad news for teachers? |
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| Joe Thanks wrote: |
I must be old here, since I was in Korea possibly before your time.
Again - MINORITY. Most work 6. "5.5 days" is semantic b. s. it's STILL 6 in reality.
A MINORITY get 5 days a week and a MINORITY will benefit from this.
What planet do you come from? |
Dude, check your dictionary. I think it's broken. Minority means the smaller group of people. Shifting the work week from more than five days a week to a simple five days a week benefits the majority, as the majority work more than 5 days a week.
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| Are you aware you tow the country�s b. s. line, especially when it�s wrong? |
Talk to me once you have some understanding of the realities involved of running an airport and the changes done that have made the new airport far superior to the old airport. Simply stating that your opinion is correct because you have to drive 15 minutes longer to get to an airport from Seoul has being the defacto proof the new airport is poor does not define the sole deciding value of an airport.
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| I don�t care to play devil�s advocate games with you. |
Just correcting, not advocating a cause I do not agree with. |
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weatherman
Joined: 14 Jan 2003
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 10:02 pm Post subject: |
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| All work and no play makes Chal-su a dull boy. I think you will see more organizational or institutional gatherings, (ah the word came to me: clubs). Instead of two friends going rollerblading on saturday somewhere, they will join a group and go rollerblading with 50 others. The five day work week ~ it's all good in my book. |
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Carldaddy
Joined: 05 Aug 2003
Location: Korea
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| Posted: Mon Oct 20, 2003 7:25 am Post subject: Folks |
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If you work a six day week already. That is silly. If you work split shifts already, that is silly as well. If you work for less than 2m per month and teach more than 20 hours. That is silly also.
I said, "doctor!", "When I step on my foot it hurts!"
And the doctor replied, "Stop stepping on your foot, you idiot." |
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