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Whistleblower

Joined: 03 Feb 2007
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 3:12 am Post subject: Buying Property in South Korea |
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Hello all,
I am thinking of buying some property in South Korea but have virtually no knowledge of the property market here.
Are there mortgages available for people looking to invest in property like in the UK? Are there difficulties for foreigners purchasing property in Korea?
For your information, I am an F2-1 Visa Holder and have been living in Korea for about 2 years now.
If anyone has some useful info. please let me know. |
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victorology
Joined: 10 Sep 2007
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Posted: Mon Nov 26, 2007 8:36 am Post subject: |
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Getting a mortgage would probably be extremely difficult. You would most likely need a native Korean to co-sign with you. |
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Whistleblower

Joined: 03 Feb 2007
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 7:26 am Post subject: |
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Has any1 had any prior experience with this? |
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PRagic

Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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Posted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:35 pm Post subject: |
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First off, the real estate market here is going arse over tea kettles. Apartments are slowing down, and small buildings/single-double family homes are picking up. Tax issues.
Apartments are way overpriced now, and you'd be better served by putting your money in at 7%.
Small buildings/houses are skyrocketing. Again, if you want just an investment, I'd still go this route. However, if you need/want a place to hang your hat, you won't get much.
As for mortgages, they work in reverse order here compared to what we're used to; you have to 'buy' the place first, and THEN apply for your mortgage. If you don't get it, you're SOL.
Good luck. I'm in chunsae now, and will be until the bubble pops. |
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endofthewor1d

Joined: 01 Apr 2003 Location: the end of the wor1d.
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:05 pm Post subject: |
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i'm also curious about commercial real estate. if anyone has any info on that, i'd like to know. it seems a lot more expensive than residential real estate. that could very well just be its nature. this is the first time i've seriously looked at any kind of real estate, so i don't know much about it. for the bar i'm planning on opening in the future, i'd like to go the 매매 route when establishing a location. but i've been looking on the 'daum' and 'naver' websites under the 부동산 section, and damn it's expensive.
someone please tell me there's a bubble getting ready to burst there as well. |
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PRagic

Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:21 pm Post subject: |
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we can only hope. as for us, we were looking into 'sanggachutaek', buidlings with commercial space on the first/second floor, and then an apartment on the top floor. nothing decent for under 1-1.5 million. saw a decent house that had been converted to a large publishing company in between shinchon and hongdae; that was going for around 750K. with any renovations to get it going as a bar/restaurant, you'd be looking at a cool million. opted away from that as we also needed a place to live!
anywhere in hongdae/shinchon worth taking a look at is at least a million, and we've seen em all. for most, renovation is a must.
even for commercial real estate, after we ran the numbers we found that buying simply isn't worth it now. you're money is working more for you buy renting/leasing and investing the balance.
we got lucky and picked up some property back in 98 when the 'IMF' crisis hit. we couldn't afford to buy what we own now! brutal, but at least THAT one works in our favour.
if you are looking to open up a pub, then you are going to have to go into an area seeded with clientel. that will cost you if you are looking to buy. good luck no matter what you chose. always good to hear of people making a go of it. |
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endofthewor1d

Joined: 01 Apr 2003 Location: the end of the wor1d.
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 5:36 pm Post subject: |
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pragic,
are you looking into the sanggachutaek in order to rent out the bottom bit, or do you also have entrepreneurial ambitions?
i don't live in seoul, and i'm not too bothered about being in a super crowded area. that's kind of the reason i want to go the 매매 route. if i don't wind up having many customers, it will still have a nice relaxing atmosphere, and i won't have to stress about making enough to cover rent every month.
anyway... i've got an entire thread about this lurking around somewhere. |
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PRagic

Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:44 pm Post subject: |
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that's what we were thinking of doing. we just moved into a chunsae place, though, and are happier for it. |
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winterwawa
Joined: 06 May 2007
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:18 pm Post subject: |
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PRagic wrote: |
First off, the real estate market here is going arse over tea kettles. Apartments are slowing down, and small buildings/single-double family homes are picking up. Tax issues.
Apartments are way overpriced now, and you'd be better served by putting your money in at 7%.
Small buildings/houses are skyrocketing. Again, if you want just an investment, I'd still go this route. However, if you need/want a place to hang your hat, you won't get much.
As for mortgages, they work in reverse order here compared to what we're used to; you have to 'buy' the place first, and THEN apply for your mortgage. If you don't get it, you're SOL.
Good luck. I'm in chunsae now, and will be until the bubble pops. |
Where do you get 7%? The best I have found is 5.8%. |
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PRagic

Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 9:54 pm Post subject: |
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Korean credit unions are running some time accounts at 7.25. |
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oh_daesu

Joined: 11 Oct 2007
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:00 pm Post subject: |
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PRagic wrote: |
As for mortgages, they work in reverse order here compared to what we're used to; you have to 'buy' the place first, and THEN apply for your mortgage. If you don't get it, you're SOL. |
Whoa. So, this part about being "SOL" if you can't get approved for a mortgage... Are you serious? You effectively 'buy' the place first, but if you can't secure a mortgage you'll pay for it anyway??? How the heck does that work? That's ass-backwards. |
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PRagic

Joined: 24 Feb 2006
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:28 pm Post subject: |
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Money reasoning here really does work different, eh? That freaked me out, too, but that's the way they do it. If you go to a bank and ask how much you can borrow, they'll say, 'how much is your house?'
when in rome. |
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marmotkorea
Joined: 12 Nov 2007
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:18 pm Post subject: |
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I disagree completely with this post.
PRagic wrote: |
First off, the real estate market here is going arse over tea kettles. Apartments are slowing down, and small buildings/single-double family homes are picking up. Tax issues. |
It's not going "arse over teakettles". Instead, apt. prices are expected to grow more slowly next year than they have during the period 2005-2007 (I'm speaking of the capital regions).
What is the "tax issue" involving apts. vs. "small buildings/single double family homes"?
Apartments continue to hold their value better and be more saleable than villas and similar dwellings.
Check any of the numerous real estate survey sites, such as www.r114.com and see for yourself.
PRagic wrote: |
Apartments are way overpriced now, and you'd be better served by putting your money in at 7%. |
Apartment prices in Seoul are expected to rise at least that much.
Putting your money in what at 7%?
PRagic wrote: |
Small buildings/houses are skyrocketing. Again, if you want just an investment, I'd still go this route. However, if you need/want a place to hang your hat, you won't get much. |
They aren't, not at all. Again, I'd recommend checking one of the many sites that collate sales figures and analyze for yourself.
PRagic wrote: |
As for mortgages, they work in reverse order here compared to what we're used to; you have to 'buy' the place first, and THEN apply for your mortgage. If you don't get it, you're SOL. |
Untrue. |
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marmotkorea
Joined: 12 Nov 2007
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Posted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:20 pm Post subject: |
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PRagic wrote: |
Money reasoning here really does work different, eh? That freaked me out, too, but that's the way they do it. If you go to a bank and ask how much you can borrow, they'll say, 'how much is your house?'
when in rome. |
That is not true and you can easily test it for yourself.
If you go to a bank for a mortgage, they will ask you what apartment/property you are interested in purchasing.
Then, they will tell you the maximum amount they will loan you to purchase it. That has nothing to do with whatever price the owner is asking, but is based on a shared real-estate database banks use. |
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Hanson

Joined: 20 Oct 2004
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Posted: Fri Nov 30, 2007 6:00 am Post subject: |
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Very interesting thread, but now I'm more confused than ever...
How much can a foreigner with, say 50-100k, borrow to buy a residential place? Does said foreigner have to have a Korean co-sign? Does it depend on the visa the foreigner holds?
I'd certainly like to hear more about this, too. |
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