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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:25 pm    Post subject: Holy shit - unbelievable essay by brilliant, angry student. Reply with quote

This was written by a grade three middle school student. It's so unlike anything I've ever seen a Korean student write that I thought I had to type it out. This is exactly as she handed it in:

Future Dreams

Actually, I don�t know what I really want to be. But by seeing many teachers and wrong education policy, a small dream becomes bigger and bigger which I want to change today�s education. So at first I want to be a teacher and then become a minister of education. I will not be a teacher who doesn�t have any teaching ability, background, and common sense. But ironically in this country, there are many teachers who don�t have any knowledge. When I become a teacher, I will not be like that teacher. And I really don�t like those teachers who punish students violently. Although students didn�t do such a bad thing, teachers hit them. But not all of the teachers behave like this. And I really don�t like teachers who are not neat and clean. To be a teacher, I think, we need more tests and certification. I will certainly change those things. I really want the policy to be conducted early which students evaluate teachers. Then the teachers who don�t have any ability will be retired. In this sense, my dream is not just a teacher, but to change Korea�s education. It really needs to be changed. I will do my best that my dream to be come true. I really want the teacher who don�t have ability to disappear in the school.
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yingwenlaoshi



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 11:54 pm    Post subject: Re: Holy *beep* - unbelievable essay by brilliant, angry stu Reply with quote

Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
This was written by a grade three middle school student. It's so unlike anything I've ever seen a Korean student write that I thought I had to type it out. This is exactly as she handed it in:

Future Dreams

Actually, I don�t know what I really want to be. But by seeing many teachers and wrong education policy, a small dream becomes bigger and bigger which I want to change today�s education. So at first I want to be a teacher and then become a minister of education. I will not be a teacher who doesn�t have any teaching ability, background, and common sense. But ironically in this country, there are many teachers who don�t have any knowledge. When I become a teacher, I will not be like that teacher. And I really don�t like those teachers who punish students violently. Although students didn�t do such a bad thing, teachers hit them. But not all of the teachers behave like this. And I really don�t like teachers who are not neat and clean. To be a teacher, I think, we need more tests and certification. I will certainly change those things. I really want the policy to be conducted early which students evaluate teachers. Then the teachers who don�t have any ability will be retired. In this sense, my dream is not just a teacher, but to change Korea�s education. It really needs to be changed. I will do my best that my dream to be come true. I really want the teacher who don�t have ability to disappear in the school.


Where did he get such good English? And don't say from your classroom.
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I really want the teacher who don�t have ability to disappear in the school.


Yeah! She's totally expressed what half of the K-teachers in my HS are like. No personality, dead-pan expressions, standing at the front of the class mumbling while half the students sleep.
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normalcyispasse



Joined: 27 Oct 2006
Location: Yeosu until the end of February WOOOOOOOO

PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Damn, +1 for her! Go go gadget idealism!
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 12:58 am    Post subject: Re: Holy *beep* - unbelievable essay by brilliant, angry stu Reply with quote

yingwenlaoshi wrote:
Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
This was written by a grade three middle school student. It's so unlike anything I've ever seen a Korean student write that I thought I had to type it out. This is exactly as she handed it in:

Future Dreams

Actually, I don�t know what I really want to be. But by seeing many teachers and wrong education policy, a small dream becomes bigger and bigger which I want to change today�s education. So at first I want to be a teacher and then become a minister of education. I will not be a teacher who doesn�t have any teaching ability, background, and common sense. But ironically in this country, there are many teachers who don�t have any knowledge. When I become a teacher, I will not be like that teacher. And I really don�t like those teachers who punish students violently. Although students didn�t do such a bad thing, teachers hit them. But not all of the teachers behave like this. And I really don�t like teachers who are not neat and clean. To be a teacher, I think, we need more tests and certification. I will certainly change those things. I really want the policy to be conducted early which students evaluate teachers. Then the teachers who don�t have any ability will be retired. In this sense, my dream is not just a teacher, but to change Korea�s education. It really needs to be changed. I will do my best that my dream to be come true. I really want the teacher who don�t have ability to disappear in the school.


Where did he get such good English? And don't say from your classroom.


Yale Academy in Daegu. Kudos to 'Brian-teacher', whoever that may be.

She also took one semester of writing class with me, but her writing was almost as good as above when I started teaching her writing.
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Rapacious Mr. Batstove



Joined: 26 Jan 2007
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 2:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sometimes at my middle school, it seems that some teachers are just well dressed bums pulled from the street, handed a belt microphone and told to read from a text boot while brandishing a bamboo cane.

YBS - I've had students express pretty similar sentiments in their writings. It would appear that Korea could clean up it's act by simply listening to the kids.
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Yu_Bum_suk



Joined: 25 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rapacious Mr. Batstove wrote:
Sometimes at my middle school, it seems that some teachers are just well dressed bums pulled from the street, handed a belt microphone and told to read from a text boot while brandishing a bamboo cane.

YBS - I've had students express pretty similar sentiments in their writings. It would appear that Korea could clean up it's act by simply listening to the kids.


What really shocked me about this is that I didn't think our school was so bad. I had no idea that one of our smartest students felt this way.
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mrsquirrel



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

^ It's a good start though.

A few more of them and they could have a revolution on their hands.

Problem is if she is good at the free thinking thing she will get whisked away to another country to work there leaving the droids behind.
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BS.Dos.



Joined: 29 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:02 pm    Post subject: Re: Holy *beep* - unbelievable essay by brilliant, angry stu Reply with quote

Yu_Bum_suk wrote:
Then the teachers who don�t have any ability will be retired.


I hope she means with a single bullet to the back of the neck.
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oldfatfarang



Joined: 19 May 2005
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 6:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

An excellent piece - well thought out, argued and written. You're very lucky to be teaching a kid like that.

My only doubt is, after listening to numerous K kids voicing the same opinion, will she, too, become crushed by her society and turn into a smiling, love-stick-weilding, child-beating adjuma?

Where do these child-beaters come from? Surely when they were young they also said that they would never beat kids. ?????????
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twg



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 7:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

oldfatfarang wrote:
Where do these child-beaters come from? Surely when they were young they also said that they would never beat kids. ?????????

It's easy to say that before you get older and start working with them.
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porcupine



Joined: 07 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

There are some Korean parents who think that it is okay to give corporal punishment to their kids for the purpose of teaching them what discipline means.

In the old old days, teachers were the child-beaters. The stick that teachers used to hit their students (ususally calves) was called 사랑의 매 (sarang ul mae) Literal translation is love-stick or stick of love.

I guess with the baby boom after the Korean War, parents didn't really think much about child-rearing and relied on the teachers to do much of the rearing, even if it involved hitting the child.

It's a different story nowadays with parents eager to get their sons exempt from army service. Students are also protesting in a way...cell phones go up when a teacher is about to hit a student.[/code]
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oldfatfarang



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

porcupine wrote:
There are some Korean parents who think that it is okay to give corporal punishment to their kids for the purpose of teaching them what discipline means.

In the old old days, teachers were the child-beaters. The stick that teachers used to hit their students (ususally calves) was called 사랑의 매 (sarang ul mae) Literal translation is love-stick or stick of love.

I guess with the baby boom after the Korean War, parents didn't really think much about child-rearing and relied on the teachers to do much of the rearing, even if it involved hitting the child.

It's a different story nowadays with parents eager to get their sons exempt from army service. Students are also protesting in a way...cell phones go up when a teacher is about to hit a student.[/code]



You can forget about this 'in the old days' myth that Koreans like to put about to save face. Likewise, the other myth that Koreans never beat students until the Japanese came.

K teachers beat kids almost on a daily basis in my school. I see it in the corridors, and I hear it so often I now listen to music to drown it out - and I'm still trying to get to grips with students being beaten in my classroom. I hope I never get used to it. To me, this is thuggish, uncivilised behavior, and no amount of this 'love-stick' nonsense can candone it.
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BS.Dos.



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can remember getting beaten at my primary school in the UK in the 70's. Didn't do me any harm and I always deserved it.

I've seen some of the boys at my HS getting the 'wood' across the a55 a number of times. I've never found out what warrants the beatings, but I don't personally see anything wrong with it, provided that it isn't excessive or indiscriminate.
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 9:57 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

BS.Dos. wrote:
I can remember getting beaten at my primary school in the UK in the 70's. Didn't do me any harm and I always deserved it.

I've seen some of the boys at my HS getting the 'wood' across the a55 a number of times. I've never found out what warrants the beatings, but I don't personally see anything wrong with it, provided that it isn't excessive or indiscriminate.


Ditto. I got smacked around the head, caned, smacked on the back of the legs, the works. Don't really think it did me much harm and I did deserve it. I accepted and it got to the point where it didn't really hurt anymore. But it was just a phase and I grew out of it. Would I have been different now if they hadn't disciplined me?? I don't hold grudges against my teachers for doing it, and I don't think less of them because of it. It was just the norm.

My schools don't do the beatings, but they do the endurance punishments. On the knees, bags, shoes held above the head etc. These seem pretty lame. I do find the female teachers and their tellings off by their chairs, with the child's head bowed as they are made to feel bad, interesting. Not sure if they work. But the boys and girls seem to have more respect for the female teachers through this method.

I do remember having a paint fight in art once with my best friend and as punishment we were paraded around in front of each class, absolutely covered in paint. We need more punishments like this nowadays.

Good student for the OP. One of my students today put for their wish for a future job as a "company employee," how's that for imagination, another one wrote "chicken"


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