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MANDRL



Joined: 13 Oct 2006
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:00 pm    Post subject: Thinking of marriage Reply with quote

For many reasons I do not want to get into here, my fiancee and I are thinking of getting married before we move home to the United States next month. We are both American citizens and the US Embassy site appears to give advice for only Americans marrying Koreans. Can anyone shed any light on how to do this, how difficult it is, how long it takes, and any other advice. Thank you very much in advance.
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stevemcgarrett



Joined: 24 Mar 2006

PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

First off, congrats.

Second, as you're marrying a Korean gal, you might have an easier time of things than I had marrying a Chinese from "hostile territory."

Third, check into the fiancee visa situation. If it hasn't changed, it is actually a lot easier and quicker to get your gal to the U.S. if you return there first, secure a job, and then apply online with the appropriate application. That is, easier and quicker than getting hitched here and trying to await her green card for immigration to the U.S. Again, however, circumstances even in that regard could have changed, or play out differently in this national context.

Whatever you decide is the best route, be sure to photocopy everything, document everything, and file everything. And if she hasn't already, she should start to get all her documents in order, especially those that might require translation from Korean to English.

Best of luck. Welcome to the growing ranks of the internationally married.
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Scotticus



Joined: 18 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevemcgarrett wrote:

Second, as you're marrying a Korean gal, you might have an easier time of things than I had marrying a Chinese from "hostile territory."

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Best of luck. Welcome to the growing ranks of the internationally married.


Except that he said he's marrying an American and was asking for advice about two US citizens getting married in the RoK.
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MANDRL



Joined: 13 Oct 2006
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 9:32 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

stevemcgarrett wrote:
First off, congrats.

Second, as you're marrying a Korean gal, you might have an easier time of things than I had marrying a Chinese from "hostile territory."

Third, check into the fiancee visa situation. If it hasn't changed, it is actually a lot easier and quicker to get your gal to the U.S. if you return there first, secure a job, and then apply online with the appropriate application. That is, easier and quicker than getting hitched here and trying to await her green card for immigration to the U.S. Again, however, circumstances even in that regard could have changed, or play out differently in this national context.

Whatever you decide is the best route, be sure to photocopy everything, document everything, and file everything. And if she hasn't already, she should start to get all her documents in order, especially those that might require translation from Korean to English.

Best of luck. Welcome to the growing ranks of the internationally married.


Thanks for the information. However, we are actually both American citizens who came to Korea together. Do you know how long it takes at the US Embassy to complete the marriage, and not to sound naive, but the wedding license you obtain in Korea IS valid in the United States, right?

(My fiancee is Filipino-American, so we are joining the ranks of the interracial marriage crowd Wink)
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Milwaukiedave



Joined: 02 Oct 2004
Location: Goseong

PostPosted: Fri Nov 16, 2007 10:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

You'll have to forgive Steve, he is use to only reading the comics in the newspaper.
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kprrok



Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Location: KC

PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 2:02 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, a Korean wedding certificate is not valid in the US. That's what I was told. I married my Korean wife here last May, and we had a ceremony in July when we visited my family in the States. We're now officially married in both countries.

Not to pry, but why would you want to get married here if you're both American? Do you really want a ceremony where none of your family could make it? Or if they could, it would be really expensive? You don't have to answer, but just seems odd.

KPRROK
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MarionG



Joined: 14 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 2:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Law in the US upholds any foreign marriage as long as it was conducted according to the laws of the country in which the marriage took place.
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winterwawa



Joined: 06 May 2007

PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 3:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

kprrok wrote:
No, a Korean wedding certificate is not valid in the US. That's what I was told. I married my Korean wife here last May, and we had a ceremony in July when we visited my family in the States. We're now officially married in both countries.


A korean marriage certificate is valid any where in the world. The reason you have to do the paper work at the embassy is so that it will be registered in America. You didn't have to get married twice for your marriage to be valid in both countries.
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kprrok



Joined: 06 Apr 2004
Location: KC

PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 5:27 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

winterwawa wrote:
kprrok wrote:
No, a Korean wedding certificate is not valid in the US. That's what I was told. I married my Korean wife here last May, and we had a ceremony in July when we visited my family in the States. We're now officially married in both countries.


A korean marriage certificate is valid any where in the world. The reason you have to do the paper work at the embassy is so that it will be registered in America. You didn't have to get married twice for your marriage to be valid in both countries.


I was told that the Korean wedding certificate...oh wait, there isn't one!

I could take the form, but I'd still have had to register the wedding in America, which was the same as having another wedding. So technically, it might have worked, but it was no harder to do another ceremony.

Yes, you fill out the paperwork at the embassy, but that's so that the Korean government knows you're eligible to be married and not already doing it. The woman at the embassy told me it was not an official wedding certificate.

KPRROK
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DHC



Joined: 15 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 4:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Korea there is no official wedding certificate. The Korean spouse's Family Registration Book , translated into English and notarized , is accepted as the official birth,marriage,death certificate of a Korean citizen. Under US Immigration law , the marriage of a US citizen to a Korean citizen is recognized by the US government. The "official"" record of this marriage is the Korean spouse's Family Registration Book. A marriage outside of Korea must be recorded in the Family Registration Book to be a legal marriage in Korea. Once it is a legal marriage in Korea it is recognized as a legal marriage in the US.
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lastat06513



Joined: 18 Mar 2003
Location: Sensus amo Caesar , etiamnunc victus amo uni plebian

PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 4:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

A couple I knew met over there and got married there before going back to the states......

Basically, it is almost the same process as a Korean marriage registry, but without the signature stamps and the family registry.....

If I were you, I'd go to the embassy itself and speak to someone at the Citizen's Service Center to see what is needed from both of you, because I do know (from what I remember, that it must be still registered at the respective city hall where the paperwork is started.


Again..congrats!
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Percy Nickets



Joined: 18 May 2006

PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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sineface



Joined: 27 Feb 2006
Location: C'est magnifique

PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 8:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just did it. Two days ago! Actually, I'm not American I'm British so it was a little more complicated, but for you guys it's as easy as pie. You'll have to download the forms on the page, fill them out four times, and head to the embassy. They sign them, send you around the corner to the korean ward office where the mayor's signature is stamped on (along with another 4000 stamps and signatures) and at this point you are legally married. You take it back to the us embassy and they notarize the forms and you are married under us and korean law. In our case it was a hell of a lot more complicated because my husband is in the army and they make it bl00dy difficult, but you should have a smooth ride. The fee is around $10 for the embassy and another 10,000won at the korean office.

At this page
http://seoul.usembassy.gov/wwwh2510.html
which I'm sure you've been to, it tells you all you have to to. Just disregard the paragraph about the korean partner, as it doesn't apply to you.

Lastly, many congratulations.
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MANDRL



Joined: 13 Oct 2006
Location: South Korea

PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 9:14 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sineface wrote:
I just did it. Two days ago! Actually, I'm not American I'm British so it was a little more complicated, but for you guys it's as easy as pie. You'll have to download the forms on the page, fill them out four times, and head to the embassy. They sign them, send you around the corner to the korean ward office where the mayor's signature is stamped on (along with another 4000 stamps and signatures) and at this point you are legally married. You take it back to the us embassy and they notarize the forms and you are married under us and korean law. In our case it was a hell of a lot more complicated because my husband is in the army and they make it bl00dy difficult, but you should have a smooth ride. The fee is around $10 for the embassy and another 10,000won at the korean office.

At this page
http://seoul.usembassy.gov/wwwh2510.html
which I'm sure you've been to, it tells you all you have to to. Just disregard the paragraph about the korean partner, as it doesn't apply to you.

Lastly, many congratulations.


Thanks for some great information. It sounds like a painless procedure, which is what we are looking for. Congratulations to you as well! Very Happy
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tzechuk



Joined: 20 Dec 2004

PostPosted: Sat Nov 17, 2007 9:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

kprrok wrote:
Not to pry, but why would you want to get married here if you're both American? Do you really want a ceremony where none of your family could make it? Or if they could, it would be really expensive? You don't have to answer, but just seems odd.

KPRROK


Perhaps the precise reason why they want to get married here and not back home is because they do NOT want a ceremony??? A lot of people dislike the hassle of the ceremony and the banquet/reception afterwards, so they go abroad to get married.

This is also how the meaning of the word *elope* changed. People say they are *eloping* when in fact they are simply getting married abroad.

BTW, congrats, OP!
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