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happeningthang



Joined: 26 Apr 2003

PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 8:52 am    Post subject: A World Without America!! Reply with quote

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JwAtNILh6uY&feature=related
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caniff



Joined: 03 Feb 2004
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:19 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Swarzenegger would be president of Austria?
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Pluto



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:37 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Would that make Swarzenegger a communist? What about Maggie? Would that make her a communist sympithizer?
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caniff



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 9:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://youtube.com/watch?v=UBnZF-h-ZcQ
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 1:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It took the Soviets four YEARS to get from Berlin to Paris? Maybe 4 DAYS if they were driving their tanks slowly.
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Kuros



Joined: 27 Apr 2004

PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ya-ta Boy wrote:
It took the Soviets four YEARS to get from Berlin to Paris? Maybe 4 DAYS if they were driving their tanks slowly.


No America = No D-Day.

Sure, the Brits and Canadians were more than proportionately represented on the ground, but without the industrial power of America D-Day would have simply been a logistical impossibility.

So the Soviets would've had to defeat the Nazis almost entirely on their own while Britain weathered it out.
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keysbottles



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PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 2:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Much of Russia's equipment was made in the USA?
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Sleepy in Seoul



Joined: 15 May 2004
Location: Going in ever decreasing circles until I eventually disappear up my own fundament - in NZ

PostPosted: Tue Nov 27, 2007 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

What an appalling little piece of propoganda. What bollocks.
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keane



Joined: 09 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sleepy in Seoul wrote:
What an appalling little piece of propoganda. What bollocks.


Agreed. Let us go further back. A world without America would be a world with the Americas being cleared of most of the original inhabitants. (Though that was primarily the fault of colonial powers, not their descendants.)

Oh, and a world without America would be a poorer world? For whom? I think one could argue quite well that the lives of people all over the world would have developed quite differently, and very possibly more healthily, had Europeans stayed home.

My point: this kind of propaganda is both pointless and disgusting. One can twist these arguments any which way.


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Pluto



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 10:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sleepy in Seoul wrote:
What an appalling little piece of propoganda. What bollocks.


If you're referring to the message's simplicity, then yes, I agree with you. It is complete bollocks. I'd give my audience more credit and give them a much more articulated view of the purpose of America's existence.
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Sleepy in Seoul



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Pluto wrote:
Sleepy in Seoul wrote:
What an appalling little piece of propoganda. What bollocks.


If you're referring to the message's simplicity, then yes, I agree with you. It is complete bollocks. I'd give my audience more credit and give them a much more articulated view of the purpose of America's existence.


Actually, it's not the simplicity, although that is insulting to my intelligence; it's the whole message. 'The whole world is safe only because of America. Everyone owes us big-time! Look on my works, ye worthless, and worship me.'

Please do explain the real purpose of America's existence. I would be most interested to hear it.
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 3:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sleepy in Seoul wrote:

Please do explain the real purpose of America's existence. I would be most interested to hear it.


Its the home for 300million Americans.

Pluto wrote:
I'd give my audience more credit and give them a much more articulated view of the purpose of America's existence.


The video did get it right when "Frozen Food" flashed across the screen. Refrigeration is one of the greatest inventions in the world, along with another American invention, the internet.
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Sleepy in Seoul



Joined: 15 May 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:30 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kuros wrote:
Sleepy in Seoul wrote:
Please do explain the real purpose of America's existence. I would be most interested to hear it.


Its the home for 300million Americans.

What exactly does that mean?

Kuros wrote:

The video did get it right when "Frozen Food" flashed across the screen. Refrigeration is one of the greatest inventions in the world, along with another American invention, the internet.

Bravo America's life!! But are you honestly trying to tell me that if refrigeration hadn't been invented by an American that it would never have been invented? People from other countries are eminently capable of inventing things too, and indeed have managed one or two things.
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Kuros



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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 5:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sleepy in Seoul wrote:

Kuros wrote:

The video did get it right when "Frozen Food" flashed across the screen. Refrigeration is one of the greatest inventions in the world, along with another American invention, the internet.

Bravo America's life!! But are you honestly trying to tell me that if refrigeration hadn't been invented by an American that it would never have been invented? People from other countries are eminently capable of inventing things too, and indeed have managed one or two things.


Why is it that an American proud of his country's accomplishments is offensive to you?

I can appreciate American inventions and those of other countries.

For every ugly American, there apparently is some commonwealther with an inferiority complex. Laughing
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Pligganease



Joined: 14 Sep 2004
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PostPosted: Wed Nov 28, 2007 6:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kuros wrote:

Why is it that an American proud of his country's accomplishments is offensive to you?

I can appreciate American inventions and those of other countries.

For every ugly American, there apparently is some commonwealther with an inferiority complex. Laughing


Indeed. Why is it that Canadians can walk around with maple leaves tattooed on their foreheads, talk about how great their country is, and point out everything that Canada has ever done, but the moment an American says anything positive about his country he's "the typical arrogant American?"
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