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When does it stop smelling weird?
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haute 4 teacher



Joined: 19 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:51 am    Post subject: When does it stop smelling weird? Reply with quote

So I've been here for 4 months, and it still smells weird. In the classroom, on the street, in my own apartment.

At what point do you stop noticing the smells?

Do you?

Please say yes!
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fortysixyou



Joined: 08 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you describe the smells?

Is it all one smell or three different smells?


When I came to Korea, I thought that it always smelled like car exhaust outside. As it turns out, there are a lot of cars here, and correspondingly, a lot of exhaust.

I stopped noticing it eventually, but the smell still annoys me.
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haute 4 teacher



Joined: 19 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 2:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, there is a fish and pork factory across from the school, so I understand that.

But, walking around anywhere in town I can maybe go 4-8 minutes without something attacking my olfactory senses. Kind of like garbage and rotting (sewers maybe?).

And, walking past most restaurants, there is 3-6 different smells that I may encounter which aren't necessarily bad but largely unappetizing.

The larvae things cooking, I recognize that smell. Ditto with mothballs and urine (why do they do that with the mothballs, I'd rather smell just urine).

I'm just wondering if one gets used to it, you know, like when you were growing up and went to visit a friend and the house had that "other people's house smell" which you eventually stopped noticing after a while.
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fortysixyou



Joined: 08 Jun 2006

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 2:10 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah, I'd say those are just Korean city smells...and you eventually get used to them. Sometimes they may even make you hungry.

I'm also a very smell-conscious person. In my apartment there is a strange sewage smell underneath my kitchen sink. I fight this smell with a cup of vinegar, seems to do the trick. Only now my kitchen smells like vinegar. Better than sewage, I guess?
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RJjr



Joined: 17 Aug 2006
Location: Turning on a Lamp

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 2:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the OP is referring to the sewer smell that permeates the whole city of Seoul. I stopped noticing it around three or so months in, although I could still smell it if I was over a drainage grill. I think the locals can too, because I've seen pieces of wood and rubber placed over some of them. After five months of living in the rural mountains of east Tennessee, when I was in Seoul a week or so ago, I couldn't smell it like I could when I got there the first time in 2006.

Keep in mind, though, that we smell to them. Even though I can't relate to the folks where Koreans won't sit beside them on the subway or the folks who get turned down at the red light districts, I did have a Korean coworker who just would not believe me when I told her I spend a half hour in the shower every morning. She says she hates foreigners and I wonder if that's why. And there was even a lady teacher who posted just yesterday about getting a warning from her boss because the students say she smells.

In short, we smell Korea but Korea smells us too.
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keysbottles



Joined: 11 Jun 2007
Location: AnJung

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 2:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Each month when I go to the hospital to get my meds refilled, I will be the only person in the waiting room and the next Korean to come in will set next to me. Does this mean I smell like a Korean???
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sojourner1



Joined: 17 Apr 2007
Location: Where meggi swim and 2 wheeled tractors go sput put chug alugg pug pug

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 4:39 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What you say is really how it is. It is very smelly and polluted. Not to down Korea, it really is the honest truth that sewer stench and pollution makes for there to be no air to breath in the low laying areas between mountains where people live.

I never stop noticing smells.
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Matt_22



Joined: 22 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

RJjr wrote:

Keep in mind, though, that we smell to them. Even though I can't relate to the folks where Koreans won't sit beside them on the subway or the folks who get turned down at the red light districts, I did have a Korean coworker who just would not believe me when I told her I spend a half hour in the shower every morning. She says she hates foreigners and I wonder if that's why. And there was even a lady teacher who posted just yesterday about getting a warning from her boss because the students say she smells.

In short, we smell Korea but Korea smells us too.


i used to believe this, but after quizzing my students about it all, i'm beginning to have my doubts. i've asked a lot of them if they think foreigners have a "smell," and they've all said no - even the ones i figured out yell out something disrespectful. and also, i don't think that ALL koreans smell, but a certain percentage definitely does. and they realize this too. all the garlic and all the kimchi will do that to some people, and they're definitely conscious of the fact. they're just used to it more than we are.

now, some waegookins definitely have a smell, even with showering twice a day. but those people are just strange like that, or don't wear deoderant. and washing your clothes is always a good idea folks.
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nautilus



Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 6:31 am    Post subject: Re: When does it stop smelling weird? Reply with quote

haute 4 teacher wrote:
So I've been here for 4 months, and it still smells weird. In the classroom, on the street, in my own apartment.

At what point do you stop noticing the smells?

Do you?


No. Sorry, they never go away...I've been here a couple years or so and the whiff of effluent still hits me when I walk down the street, or the whiff of garlic/kimchi odour the second you step foot into the subway..etc.

by contrast, I Japan to be virtually odorless. Completely sanitised compared to here.
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isthisreally



Joined: 01 Sep 2007

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 7:32 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think the biggest problem here is that it's not just one or a bunch of constant smells. It's smells in different places at different times. I was in India before I came to Korea and India really stinks. But i got used to it a lot faster than Korea. India stinks everywhere. Whereas Korea is more like certain restaurants, sewers and my students.
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bijjy



Joined: 11 Sep 2005
Location: Daegu

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 10:13 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In Japan they don't puke in the streets; in fact, public drinking is prohibited. They don't eat bundeggi and old ladies don't sit around in the street doing things to piles of cabbage. They also don't ferment the cabbage in large pots outside. In Japan, the sewage systems are closed and built according to first world code, and there are many little gardens and trees lining the streets that purify the air. The neighbourhood trash systems don't involve piling up garbage 4 ft high on the side of the street without a container. I think all those things would explain the difference in smell.
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kimcheechochy



Joined: 22 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:00 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes the smells.....welcome to Asia.

Korea definitely is an olfactory bonanza. When I first came to Seoul, I noticed that I could smell sh*t. I dunno what it is about the sewers here (maybe they are shallow) but the human waste smell is common around here, even in the fancy areas like Apgujung.

But hell, even NYC smells like garbage (so I have been told).
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bijjy



Joined: 11 Sep 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Welcome to asia? No, I don't think all of asia stinks! Japan didn't stink, Thailand didn't stink, and even the non-touristy more polluted parts of Malaysia didn't stink like Korea. I hear Beijing stinks from the factory emissions but I've never been to verify.
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kimcheechochy



Joined: 22 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 11:18 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't know about Japan but..

THAILAND DOESN'T SMELL? ARE YOU KIDDING ME? I was in Phuket (arguably the nicest place in Thailand) and it stunk there too. There were a lot of sick dogs walking around Phuket as well. Probably Vietnam was the worst I think. There were HUGE piles of garbage in the street, uncovered.
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igotthisguitar



Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)

PostPosted: Thu Nov 29, 2007 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is the pollution, Korea's poor air quality.

Clearly cleaner air in the west, especially the country regions.

CHEMTRAIL SPRAYING might have something to do with it as well Idea

i see to sense the Chinese Hwang-sa a lot.

Likely has something to do with the so-called ELECTRO-SMOG (form of radiation poisoning )
as well.

Even now, as i sit here typing, there arises the periodic compulsion to put my mask on.

Particles per million must be quite dense Shocked
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