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crazy_arcade · Joined: 05 Nov 2006

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Bibbitybop · Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Location: Seoul

Just a tip to English teachers: If a Korean journalist wants to talk to you at your home or school, politely decline. No matter how upstanding of a teacher you happen to be, they aren't looking to show your professionalism and good job. They are going to use you as anti-foreigner fodder.

crazy_arcade · Joined: 05 Nov 2006

Did you watch it all the way to the end?

They did a good job with the last guy at the High School.

jaganath69 · Joined: 17 Jul 2003

lastat06513 · Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 7:16 pm Post subject:

I think the best thing to do is to have their questions either directed to the school director or to the ministry of education, at least the burden would be placed squarely on the person directly above you who should (a term I will use VERY loosely in the Kantian sense of it) have more candor and subtly to answer tham in the Korean media.

In fact, you guys should make every effort not to be seen on camera.

I agree, politely declining to answer would be good idea, but knowing how the Korean media spins thing, they will take it as a sign of incrimination or a sign of guilt on the teachers' part-- I had seen many exposes (both on SBS, KBS and MBC and in the Chosun Ilbo, Joongang Ilbo, and Sports Seoul) where the teacher who didn't answer questions would be considered as a person quietly admitting guilt- which is totally ridiculous by our judicial standards.

So either way, we are damned if we answer or damned if we don't.......

whatever · Joined: 11 Jun 2006 Location: Korea: More fun than jail.

Optimus Prime · Joined: 05 Jul 2007

Young FRANKenstein · Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 8:27 pm Post subject:

Bibbitybop · Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Location: Seoul

I'd like to see some statistics of Koreans vs. foreigners in Korea. Let the Koreans and world see, per capita, the percentage of people who commit sex crimes, abuse children, steal, fight and do anything else immoral and illegal. I guarantee you that in a group of 1000 average Koreans and 1000 average foreigners, Korean people and children are much more likely to be a victim of a crime committed by a Korean.

Most of us would never hit one of our students and except for odd-ball, sick cases like Christopher Neil, not one of us would sexually touch a child. My Korean co-teachers have pointed out multiple children in my school that are physically or abused by someone in their family. The Korean teachers hate it, but the Korean government and police will NOT intervene unless it is a very, very extreme case.

To all the Koreans reading this website, especially the Korean media: Your children are safer with a foreigner in Korean and a Western standard of justice than they are with another Korean, or in some cases, even with their own family. Did you not read the anger and outrage the foreign community had toward Christopher Neil, even before he was found guilty in a court of law? We don't stand for the crap that your society puts up with. We will protect women and children, something I can't say the Korean police or law does well. How many times are foreigners outraged when a man hits a woman in public and the Koreans just pass by? Come try to hit a woman, even your woman, in a Western nation. We will beat your ass and then you will be taken by the police and prosecuted. Try to abuse a child. You will likely be killed in prison because even our societies' lowest denominators don't put up with harming a child.

Simply put: Take care of ALL the problems in your society, no matter if the problem is caused by a foreigner or a Korean. Stop painting the foreigners with the same dirty brush because we are not the threat. Your own people are.

Troll_Bait · Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 9:22 pm Post subject:

Bibbitybop · Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Location: Seoul

Thanks for that, Troll Bait. Now, subtract military personnel (because most people don't see them or come into contact with them, much less spend time learning English from them) and subtract any foreigners who aren't teaching English here. Now what do those numbers look like?

I should've been clearer in my other post and used "foreign teacher" instead of "foreigner" since that was the scope of the KBS program and most other anti-foreigner programs crapped out by the Korean media.

kermo · Posted: Sat Dec 01, 2007 9:55 pm Post subject:

Rteacher · Joined: 23 May 2005 Location: Western MA, USA

It's natural to tolerate less disturbance from "outsiders" than from your own kind...

It's also par for the course for mass media to use some deception to sensationalize their news stories...

It's not just a Korean thing ...

How does a large portion of the U.S. view Mexican (and Muslim) foreign workers in their midst?

In times of heightened political tensions and economic concerns foreigners make the most convenient scapegoats...

Bibbitybop · Joined: 22 Feb 2006 Location: Seoul

Paul_Zerzan · Joined: 26 Sep 2007

I know the guy with the fake food sciences degree in the middle of part two. Everyone always knew he was full of it. What an unfortunate way to be proven correct though. Imagine the shame.

Whoever the ass is in the first episode, waving his money around saying Koreans need to learn to be more polite, wow, that's just fucked up.