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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 6:15 pm    Post subject: Sleep Deprivation Reply with quote

Just a comment on Korean society in general, people here seem to sleep a lot less than I am used to people sleeping.

I don't sleep really well, and I need about 8 hours a night to function at 100% the next day. Given working mostly evening hagwon jobs since I got here, that isn't too hard for me to do, except when the neighbours decide to have another domestic battle.

A lot of businessmen here sleep 5 hours or less a night, as do high school students, and others. I have gone on 5 hours a night for days at a stretch, and I eventually burn out. In fact, I tend to burn out within a week. I will come home one day and crash out for 11-12 hours, and then go right back to where I started.

Some people here are in positions where they can't really do that, can't really get that 12 or so hours of sleep necessary for the body to recover from being sleep deprived for an extended amount of time. I can't imagine how they function. I guess it helps that many of those people sleep at their desks.

I am also wondering about the long term effects on your body or mind after being sleep deprived for so long. It can't be good. Maybe that's why so many older men just seem numb to the world around them.
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CeleryMan



Joined: 12 Apr 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 10:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Buddy, we age in dog years ova here; the pollution, singular diet, and work-obsessed culture only accelerates the aging process; as I said earlier, only in Korea is 20 the new 30, 40 the new 50, so on and so forth.

I'd love to thoroughly engrain the concept of class-action lawsuits to each and every salaryman in this country. Lord knows the Comglomerates have enough hush money to settle one or two major out of court settlements.

Do we have any members of the litigation world reppin on this forum? I'd love to share my grandiose idea.
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Easter Clark



Joined: 18 Nov 2007
Location: Hiding from Yie Eun-woong

PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 12:26 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I personally don't know where I would be without my daily 1-hour naps on my desk. Public school has its advantages!
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marlow



Joined: 06 Feb 2005

PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 12:47 am    Post subject: Re: Sleep Deprivation Reply with quote

Ilsanman wrote:
I am also wondering about the long term effects on your body or mind after being sleep deprived for so long. It can't be good. Maybe that's why so many older men just seem numb to the world around them.


Sleep has been proven to affect long term memory. Since language learning is a long term endeavor, no wonder even Nepal ranks higher on IELTS than Korea.
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Ilsanman



Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea

PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 4:52 am    Post subject: Re: Sleep Deprivation Reply with quote

Could be. It'd be a neat case study.

marlow wrote:
Ilsanman wrote:
I am also wondering about the long term effects on your body or mind after being sleep deprived for so long. It can't be good. Maybe that's why so many older men just seem numb to the world around them.


Sleep has been proven to affect long term memory. Since language learning is a long term endeavor, no wonder even Nepal ranks higher on IELTS than Korea.
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stvwrd



Joined: 31 Mar 2005

PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 5:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've had problems with insomnia all my life but finally after two years of waking up at 7am every day, I'm seeing improvement.

A big factor was that from July until November I had to wake up at 5:30 am three days a week.

Somehow this balanced it all out and I'm currently in fairly decent sleep pattern, though I still wake up tired every morning and have a hard time getting up.

I've always wanted to experiment with polyphasic sleep:

http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2006/04/polyphasic-sleep-the-return-to-monophasic/
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Carmy



Joined: 12 Apr 2007
Location: Seoul

PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 5:51 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Insomnia really is awful! I suffer from it at least once a week, where I'll toss and turn in bed, fully aware of everything around me and then I'll look at my alarm clock and it's 4:22a.m and I'm STILL awake!
It always seems to happen that after 4ish I fall asleep and then have to wake up 4 hours later.
It seems like my body is kind of getting used to it though, because I rarely feel like I have sand in my eyes after a sleepless night, anymore.
Not sure if this is a good or bad thing.

But I know of so many many people here in Korea that suffer from a lack of sleep. I wonder why? Shouldn't we be completely knackered from the kids and the long hours?
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chris_J2



Joined: 17 Apr 2006
Location: From Brisbane, Au.

PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 6:00 am    Post subject: Sleep Reply with quote

Firstly, congratulations on the new addition to the family!

I work in a PS job, & often sleep in on Saturday mornings. Occasionally, I was so tired, in my last job, that I would lie down on the sofa, when I got home at 5pm, & wake up at 3am, with the TV on static. Is Korean TV programming really that boring? Without having changed clothes, eaten, or showered!
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ella



Joined: 17 Apr 2006

PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 6:14 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's true that lots of people are sleep-deprived and it's also true that some are exaggerating about how little sleep they get. It's bizarrely something to brag about, here.
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Mon Dec 10, 2007 6:29 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

CeleryMan wrote:
Buddy, we age in dog years ova here; the pollution, singular diet, and work-obsessed culture only accelerates the aging process

Fresh air in this small town, Very Happy varied diet for moi (korean restaurants one night, home cooking the next, something different the day after), and a 2 pm to 6:50 pm teaching schedule makes work a sidenote to my day. I guess I age in turtle years here. Wink

Easter Clark wrote:
I personally don't know where I would be without my daily 1-hour naps on my desk. Public school has its advantages!

Hagwons have their advantages of never working mornings! (for the majority, those without kindy or morning adult)

Leaving the apartment for work at 1:30 p.m. and arriving back at 7:00 pm has been GREAT for my sleep schedule the last couple of years! I used to work until 9 pm here but never mornings allowing plenty of time to get caught up on sleep after the odd late night up or out.

I cannot imagine anyone not having regret for taking a split-shift job. Shocked Unless they are in short-term savings mode.

I could go a lifetime of this getting up whenever I want and not even having to think about even starting to get ready for work until noon. I start the day leisurely, at a pace dictated by my mood, doing whatever, even going back to bed midmorning if desired.

*yawn* It's after midnight now. I don't need to go to bed, but I think I will. Simply because I feel like it.

YOU MORNING WORKERS: GO TO BED. YOU NEED YOUR SLEEP!
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