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How many are preparing to leave Korea over E-2 regression?
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If you are presently facing the "shift" to the new visa laws are you....
preparing to leave 'just in case'
11%
 11%  [ 12 ]
hoping for the best ~ it will all work out~ Korea needs me
34%
 34%  [ 35 ]
forget that new visa, I'm leaving for friendlier places
44%
 44%  [ 45 ]
doing what I can to provide reports immigration will understand
6%
 6%  [ 7 ]
I'm preparing a white envelope...
1%
 1%  [ 2 ]
Total Votes : 101

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StephannieK



Joined: 22 Jan 2006
Location: Gyeongbuk-do

PostPosted: Wed Dec 05, 2007 11:33 pm    Post subject: How many are preparing to leave Korea over E-2 regression? Reply with quote

Now that the 'cat is coming out of the bag' we'll soon see how the dust settles in the ROK.

Of those who are now going through the process ....
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:28 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have submitted the required documents more times than I care to count over the last 7 years. They have been checked, verified, certified, notarized, sealed, and sent as official documents.

In any other country and you only have to do this ONCE. Here I have had to do it more times than I can count.

AND they just get stupider and stupider. I can't be bothered arsing around with them anymore.

I have no faith in the intelligence or efficiency of Korean officialdom.

I'm packing my bags.

.
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Zyzyfer



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd be willing to go through with it *once* provided I don't have to run back to my home country for the CRC/Apostille issue and wait X number of months for that to go through. If I have to go back home that long, might as well just stay there or go somewhere more suitable.
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Hank the Iconoclast



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: Busan

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 12:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm gone.
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smilesalot



Joined: 24 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

So gone, I can't wait to be out of here, only 5 months left!
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garykasparov



Joined: 27 May 2007

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 1:58 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Probably going to Taiwan or Singapore. I can't go to Russia or Putin will throw me in jail.
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articulate_ink



Joined: 23 Mar 2004
Location: Left Korea in 2008. Hong Kong now.

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What is the difference between Preparing to leave (just in case) and the third one, Leaving for friendlier places? Is it like thinking about leaving versus definitely leaving? Just curious.

I'm in the latter category, as if that needed pointing out again. No later than next summer, when my visa expires. Preferably much sooner.
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Cliffhanger



Joined: 07 Sep 2007
Location: Anyang

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 2:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm gone. I'll probably go to Taiwan. In a way I'm kinda glad this happened because I probably would have stayed, but I know I didn't really want to stay here. This was the last straw. Only two months to go...
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mehmeh



Joined: 23 May 2007
Location: South, South Korea

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Where's the "I'll throw the dog a bone while I laugh all the way to the bank" option? That's got my vote.

So what...I got to go back home and jump through a few hoops? It seems to me that they're not asking for anything more than a similar job back in our home countries would ask for. Even preschool/daycare workers have to go through this c r a p in most states. The apostillization is the only thing I can see that would be above and beyond standard western procedures and it really isn't that painful of a process.
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normalcyispasse



Joined: 27 Oct 2006
Location: Yeosu until the end of February WOOOOOOOO

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:20 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm out.

Unless some school offers me at least 3.5 and DAMN nice accomodations for my wife and myself, I'm gone.
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agentX



Joined: 12 Oct 2007
Location: Jeolla province

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:48 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I looked over the new rules and changes. Since I'm already here, I won't have to deal with this until October. So it's only the renewal parts that I'm concerned with. Which from what was translated, seems to be fairly simple.
Visa runs to Japan/China/Whatever they meant by 3rd party countries is still around, and since I work at a PS, no criminal check.
It's much too early to say whether I'd stay or go at this point.
But I won't base my decision on the E2 visa rule changes.

Funny story: the E2 rule changes reminds me of a blog post from Taiwan I read on a Footprints-associated blog. The English teacher in question was stopped and arrested for DUI. It was a justified DUI, since he was drunk and driving. Under the old rule, there was no arrest (I think). But the day he was arrested, the rule/law in question was changed to include an arrest. Anyway, the teacher was stressed about the upcoming trial for many weeks, and even more stressed from what he learned about the Taiwanese legal system.
So, instead of running (which was his lawyer's advice), he decided to report to the courthouse for his trial. He got there. No trial. Huh? After speaking to some Taiwanese friends and the clerk at the court, it seems the law was canceled because of too many complaints. He stressed out for nothing.

Point is, if I plan my course of action based upon how the rules are now, b y the time I'm ready to act on it, the rules will probably be different. This is, what? The 10th version of the rules changes we've seen on this board? Now watch; by next week, the MOJ will post something different. Who knows, maybe they'll require us to get teardrop tattoos next to our eyes. Or we'll all have to wear red bandannas (ah, 1996 all over again).
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babtangee



Joined: 18 Dec 2004
Location: OMG! Charlie has me surrounded!

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 3:54 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

mehmeh wrote:
It seems to me that they're not asking for anything more than a similar job back in our home countries would ask for. Even preschool/daycare workers have to go through this c r a p in most states. The apostillization is the only thing I can see that would be above and beyond standard western procedures and it really isn't that painful of a process.


You're forgeting what Ttom already pointed out: they will not bother keeping an organized file on you, and thus you will be expected to do the same stupid thing every freaking year.

"Totally incompetent" is the primary required characteristic of any official in the Korean government. The stupider the people running the nation the more sorry for themselves Koreans can feel. It pleases everyone.
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fruitcake



Joined: 18 Apr 2004
Location: shinchon

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 4:11 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

ttompatz wrote:
I have submitted the required documents more times than I care to count over the last 7 years. They have been checked, verified, certified, notarized, sealed, and sent as official documents.

In any other country and you only have to do this ONCE. Here I have had to do it more times than I can count.

AND they just get stupider and stupider. I can't be bothered arsing around with them anymore.

I have no faith in the intelligence or efficiency of Korean officialdom.

I'm packing my bags.

.


yep, I couldn't agree more.

It's up to my uni now, change my visa to E-1 or I'm out.
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nautilus



Joined: 26 Nov 2005
Location: Je jump, Tu jump, oui jump!

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is no such thing as a concrete decision with Koreans. Everything can easily be changed to suit or inconvenience the person, usually at the last minute.


I have no faith that these new changes will be final.

They will simply turn round and hit us with some new lunacy after a few months. Because this is the way its been here for the past 4 years. An unending trail of silly surprises.
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Tiger Beer



Joined: 07 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Dec 06, 2007 8:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

fruitcake wrote:
It's up to my uni now, change my visa to E-1 or I'm out.

Is it just a matter of changing it to a E-1? Can unis do that? I was under the impression it was kind of a random thing that immigration may or may not do without any logical reasoning to it whatsoever.

Mostly because co-workers at my uni has BA-holders with E-1s and MA-holders with e-2s and all kinds of random stuff that doesn't make much sense.
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