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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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 Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:12 pm Post subject: Iran's Jews reject cash offer to move to Israel |
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Iran's Jews reject cash offer to move to Israel
� Expats offer families �30,000 to emigrate
� Our identity is not for sale, say community leaders
Iran's Jews have given the country a loyalty pledge in the face of cash offers aimed at encouraging them to move to Israel, the arch-enemy of its Islamic rulers.
The incentives - ranging from �5,000 a person to �30,000 for families - were offered from a special fund established by wealthy expatriate Jews in an effort to prompt a mass migration to Israel from among Iran's 25,000-strong Jewish community. The offers were made with Israel's official blessing and were additional to the usual state packages it provides to Jews emigrating from the diaspora.
However, the Society of Iranian Jews dismissed them as "immature political enticements" and said their national identity was not for sale.
"The identity of Iranian Jews is not tradeable for any amount of money," the society said in a statement. "Iranian Jews are among the most ancient Iranians. Iran's Jews love their Iranian identity and their culture, so threats and this immature political enticement will not achieve their aim of wiping out the identity of Iranian Jews."
The Israeli newspaper Ma'ariv reported that the incentives had been doubled after earlier offers of �2,500 a head failed to attract any Iranian Jews to leave for Israel.
Iran's sole Jewish MP, Morris Motamed, said the offers were insulting and put the country's Jews under pressure to prove their loyalty. |
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I wonder how many Iranians know about this? I once ended up in a conversation with an Iranian student, who expressed utter disbelief when I mentioned that Iran had an ancient Jewish community. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007 11:39 pm Post subject: |
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Wonder what the Iran government would do to them if they took the money.  |
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jkelly80
Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 9:32 pm Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| Wonder what the Iran government would do to them if they took the money. |
They'd rebuild the Caliphate on their Scythian bones. |
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cerulean808
Joined: 14 Mar 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 9:50 pm Post subject: |
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Roo
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| Wonder what the Iran government would do to them if they took the money. |
What they've obviously been doing up until now probably, not much.
As opposed to the fiction of jew hating Persian nazis your always trying to pass off. 
Remember last year your journalist friend whose shoddy anti Iranian piece about anti semitism forced a conservative paper into a humiliating retraction of the article? Ha ha. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007 11:28 pm Post subject: |
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What they've obviously been doing up until now probably, not much. |
Or maybe they would hang them?
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| In May, Jewish businessman Ruhollah Kakhodah-Zadeh was arrested and later hanged in prison. His crime was never declared in public and any legal proceedings |
http://www.hrw.org/worldreport99/mideast/iran.html
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| Human Rights Watch reported the death in May 1998 of Jewish businessman. Ruhollah Kakhodah-Zadeh, who was hanged in prison without a public charge or. legal proceeding. Reports indicate that Kakhodah-Zadeh may have been killed for assisting jews to emigrate. |
http://www.foreignaffairs.house.gov/archives/107/74066f.pdf
From the article :
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Iran's Jewish population has dwindled from about 80,000 at the time of the 1979 Islamic revolution but remains the largest of any country in the Middle East apart from Israel. Jews have lived in Iran since at least 700BC.
Hostility between Iran's government and Israel means Iranian Jews are often subject to official mistrust and scrutiny. |
In other words - most Iranian jews left and they are often subject to official mistrust and scrutiny.
You didn't read the whole article did you?
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| As opposed to the fiction of jew hating Persian nazis your always trying to pass off. |
"Persians?" No>.
However if someone is a follower of Khomeni that means that they are a Klansman. Those who really follow Khomeni -what is on their mind anyway.
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| Four years later, the regime did its best to instate policies and practices hostile to religious minorities. Water fountains and toilets at my high school were segregated, some marked with signs that read �For Muslims Only.� But by and large, Iranians were not receptive to such bigotry. We crisscrossed among the stalls until the signs became meaningless. |
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/09/02/opinion/02hakakian.html?ex=1184558400&en=aae4ab19b4dec726&ei=5070
Iran also blew up the Jewish community center not in Israel but in Argentina.
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| Remember last year your journalist friend whose shoddy anti Iranian piece about anti semitism forced a conservative paper into a humiliating retraction of the article? Ha ha. |
better than your left wing fascist buddy pilger who supports the insurgents. I got him did't I ?
And while this is a little off topic here is a special gift for you and your buddy Pilger about those who you apologize for:
Islamic judges in Iran have set the precedent that the rape of a Mandaean woman can be regarded as an act of 'purification,' and as such, violators receive impunity. In Iran this defence has been used to acquit men of rapes on Mandaean girls as young as 8 years old (ibid.).
http://www.unhcr.org/cgi-bin/texis/vtx/print?tbl=RSDCOI&id=41501c2123
so what do you have to say?
At any rate followers of Khomeni are fascist bigots.
and there you go apologizing for fascism - again. Tisk, Tisk. |
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Julius
Joined: 27 Jul 2006
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Its a bit like esl lifers in Korea that never leave.
ie..it ain't that great living there, but old habits die hard. |
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crusher_of_heads
Joined: 23 Feb 2007
Location: kimbop and kimchi for kimberly!!!!
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| Posted: Sat Jul 14, 2007 11:09 am Post subject: |
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| Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee wrote: |
| Wonder what the Iran government would do to them if they took the money. |
It's not nice when you ask those questions.
Ask yourself-what would Jack Layton do? |
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:38 pm Post subject: |
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Israel has long used this tactic i.e. CASH for relocation to an illegal & illegitimate 60 yr. old middle-eastern state.
If that doesn't work state-sponsored Israeli terrorists' policy have even killed Jews living outside of Israel in order to try & frighten them into being coralled like cattle back to the fairy-tale land of Zion
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R. S. Refugee
Joined: 29 Sep 2004
Location: Shangra La, ROK
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| Posted: Mon Jul 16, 2007 8:51 pm Post subject: |
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Roo
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| Wonder what the Iran government would do to them if they took the money. |
What they've obviously been doing up until now probably, not much.
As opposed to the fiction of jew hating Persian nazis your always trying to pass off.
Remember last year your journalist friend whose shoddy anti Iranian piece about anti semitism forced a conservative paper into a humiliating retraction of the article? Ha ha. |
Now, now cerrie. Remember, this is Be-Kind-to-Long-Long-Long-Long-Winded-Schizophrenics-Week.   |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 4:40 am Post subject: |
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| R. S. Refugee wrote: |
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Roo
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| Wonder what the Iran government would do to them if they took the money. |
What they've obviously been doing up until now probably, not much.
As opposed to the fiction of jew hating Persian nazis your always trying to pass off.
Remember last year your journalist friend whose shoddy anti Iranian piece about anti semitism forced a conservative paper into a humiliating retraction of the article? Ha ha. |
Now, now cerrie. Remember, this is Be-Kind-to-Long-Long-Long-Long-Winded-Schizophrenics-Week. |
Translation : RSR has no other answer & and so he can't come up with anything better. Typical
Anyway here is what is shown on Iranian TV.
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MEMRI TV Project Special Report: Iranian TV Drama Series about Israeli Government Stealing Palestinian Children's Eyes |
http://memri.org/bin/articles.cgi?Page=archives&Area=sd&ID=SP83304
Oh and one more thing
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Oh, Canada
The Coup Coalition
By COLIN PIQUETTE
So Canada supported the Haitian coup too.
It looks like Paul Martin is already putting his mark on foreign affairs, with a shameful pandering to America in this. It was interesting to watch the hesitation in Foreign Affairs as the old hands working to save democracy in Haiti got the rug pulled out from under them by what Jamaica is already calling "new Canadians" - not meant to imply an improved version. I guess the business at any price types in the Liberal party have finally gotten their way.
So Americans, have no fear, or minor annoyance anyway - Canada will once again help hold the bag for you while you fill it with the corpses of anyone who dares to oppose your God given right to tell everyone else in the world how to manage their economy and live their lives. Sorry for the little slip up in Iraq - that Chretien must have been one of those old European types, like that asshole Trudeau. Don't worry, Mr. Martin is as American as they come - hell, he already has off shore companies to hide his cash from the state, and although that might be pretty minor league compared to American style corruption- well, hey, this is the minor leagues after all. But at least his heart is in the right place.
The Latin America coup machine - Noeriega, Reich and the death squad boys (not really neocons, just cons) have shown that everything still works. Business, or I guess, slaughter, as usual for them as well. They might have been afraid that the mass media, shamed over the whole WMD fiasco, or perhaps even the public, angered by the same, might have their doubts.
But no worries - it's baaahsniness as usual there too. Funny how Aristide, a democratically elected president with a term still to run, no army, no secret police, no concentration camps, no mass graves, a vocal and active in country opposition, accused of maybe a dozen or so atrocities carried out by mobs very partially under his control, has magically become a bloodthirsty drug running dictator. Just like that. Black is white, a circle is a square REPEAT! The terminology was put in place before the coup even half started. I knew something was up when Aristide supporters - or supporters of democracy- were suddenly being branded as 'Aristide militants'. Where have I heard that one before?
Ahh, the media bullshit. The rebels showing up for a press conference waving "a motley collection of WW II vintage" guns. A little history management there. Independent observers noted that these supposedly spontaneously generated rebels were armed with M-16s, grenade launchers, and had all terrain vehicles. They were in fact much better equipped than the Haitian police. And they also slipped in from the American puppet Domican "Republic" next door. And yet here they are with M 1s - kind of reminds me of the statue toppling moment in Baghdad.
And from what I can see we the public are lapping it all up. It seems like everyone is eager to put all that unpleasantness "behind them", to pretend that everything is ok - that having virtually the entire establishment and mass media lie to and manipulate them over Iraq was just an aberration, and not simply business as usual. We are so desperate to go back to our 'cozy' image of being the good guys again we will believe any lie that makes it seem like we are. So the truth is out there in the alternative media for anyone who bothers to go check, but how many really will? Who really wants to know? Better to live in happy ignorance.
So what's next? Why, Venezuala of course- with that other democratically elected leftwing president with no secret police and no camps, etc., being magically transformed into an evil dictator. Like I said, the machinery has been tested and shown to be still in order. New evil demon coming up! And this one has a lot of oil , but it will be about democracy and human rights.
And maybe security too - Venezuala is a dagger pointed at the heart of America. Venezualan toxic spray cannons can wipe out Washington in 30 minutes! ...Mexico will fall next and Texans will have to go to reeducation camps! Chavez is 2 months from having an atomic bomb! al Quaida is setting up shop in the Venezualan jungles! ..No, that won't fly. Well, it might - hell, they bought the "Communist menace" thing for Nicauragra, and that was a real stretch...
But no, better keep it simple and go for the traditional Allende play instead- use upper and upper middle class anger at long overdue social reforms to organize an American directed fifth column, coupled with a campaign of economic sabotage to spread general discontent and a media villification campaign. Have the coup, install the puppet dictator, then have everyone look the other way while the death squads clean out the leftwingers in time for the next "free election". Oh well, whatever storyline they choose we'll swallow it whole just the same. Or will we?
Colin Piquette teaches at Suncheon First College in Chollanamdo, South Kore. He can be reached at: [email protected]
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 4:44 am Post subject: |
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Israel has long used this tactic i.e. CASH for relocation to an illegal & illegitimate 60 yr. old middle-eastern state.
If that doesn't work state-sponsored Israeli terrorists' policy have even killed Jews living outside of Israel in order to try & frighten them into being coralled like cattle back to the fairy-tale land of Zion |
says the Jeff Rense follower.
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Iraqi authorities eventually charged three members of the Zionist underground with perpetrating the explosions. Two of those charged, Shalom Salah Shalom and Yosef Ibrahim Basri, were subsequently found guilty and executed, whilst the third was sentenced to a lengthy jail term. Salah Shalom claimed in his trial that he was tortured into confessing, and Yosef Basri maintained his innocence throughout.
Gat reports that much of the previous literature "reflects the universal conviction that the bombings had a termendous impact on the large-scale exodus of the Jews... To be more precise it is suggested that the Zionist emissaries committed these brutal acts in order to uproot the properous Iraqi Jewish community and bring it to Israel".[5] However, Gat argues that both claims are contrary to the evidence. As summarized by Mendes:
Historian Moshe Gat argues that there was little direct connection between the bombings and exodus. He demonstrates that the frantic and massive Jewish registration for denaturalisation and departure was driven by knowledge that the denaturalisation law was due to expire in March 1951. He also notes the influence of further pressures including the property-freezing law, and continued anti-Jewish disturbances which raised the fear of large-scale pogroms. In addition, it is highly unlikely the Israelis would have taken such measures to accelerate the Jewish evacuation given that they were already struggling to cope with the existing level of Jewish immigration. Gat also raises serious doubts about the guilt of the alleged Jewish bombthrowers. Firstly, a Christian officer in the Iraqi army known for his anti-Jewish views, was arrested, but apparently not charged, with the offences. A number of explosive devices similar to those used in the attack on the Jewish synagogue were found in his home. In addition, there was a long history of anti-Jewish bomb-throwing incidents in Iraq. Secondly, the prosecution was not able to produce even one eyewitness who had seen the bombs thrown. Thirdly, the Jewish defendant Shalom Salah indicated in court that he had been severely tortured in order to procure a confession. It therefore remains an open question as to who was responsible for the bombings, although Gat suggests that the most likely perpetrators were members of the anti-Jewish Istiqlal Party. Certainly memories and interpretations of the events have further been influenced and distorted by the unfortunate discrimination which many Iraqi Jews experienced on their arrival in Israel.[1]
Many years later, the Zionist emissary Yehuda Tager stated that while the main bombings were carried out by the Muslim Brotherhood, later smaller attacks were staged by Yosef Beit-Halahmi, on his own initiative, in an attempt to make it seem as if the activists on trial were not the perpetrators.[6] |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_the_Jews_in_Iraq
and now you have been answered & refuted. |
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bucheon bum
Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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| have to agree with Joo on this one. I have a feeling the Jewish community in Iran either is fearful of making such a move, and/or is ignorant of what life is like in Israel due to gov't propoganda and whatnot. |
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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We cannot accept Tehran's press releases and/or "news reports" at face value.
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Big_Bird
Joined: 31 Jan 2003
Location: Sometimes here sometimes there...
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| Posted: Tue Jul 17, 2007 4:16 pm Post subject: |
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Bof. J'en ai marre...
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igotthisguitar
Joined: 08 Apr 2003
Location: South Korea (Permanent Vacation)
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If Iran's "jews" won't take the bait, they can easily be sacrificed.
Israel has done it before. You can bet if it's decided they can "basically" get away with it
these monsters WILL do it again 
For radical Zionists such as the Ash-ke-NAZIS, the ends always justify the means |
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