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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 1:39 am    Post subject: Motorcycle on highway question... Reply with quote

For all those that travel Korea by motorcycle:

Are motorcycles allowed on Highway 60, the highway that runs from Seoul to Yangyang on the East coast?

I ask because all the "Expressways" that don't allow motorcycles (a law that needs to change) are colored yellow on the maps, but Highway 60 isn't. But, it has the "expressway" symbol for it's number sign.

Thanks! BB
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Vicissitude



Joined: 27 Feb 2007
Location: Chef School

PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 2:57 am    Post subject: Re: Motorcycle on highway question... Reply with quote

Bibbitybop wrote:
For all those that travel Korea by motorcycle:

Are motorcycles allowed on Highway 60, the highway that runs from Seoul to Yangyang on the East coast?

I ask because all the "Expressways" that don't allow motorcycles (a law that needs to change) are colored yellow on the maps, but Highway 60 isn't. But, it has the "expressway" symbol for it's number sign.

Thanks! BB
I can't answer your question, but today I saw a person dead in the road who was riding a motorbike on the highway. A truck hit him. I'm still shook up about it. Actually, I'm shaking. This is the second such accident I've seen in the past few weeks. It's no fun watching people die.... Crying or Very sad I hope they keep them off the highways in Korea because it's dangerous.

Take care
V.
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Bibbitybop



Joined: 22 Feb 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:07 am    Post subject: Re: Motorcycle on highway question... Reply with quote

Vicissitude wrote:
Bibbitybop wrote:
For all those that travel Korea by motorcycle:

Are motorcycles allowed on Highway 60, the highway that runs from Seoul to Yangyang on the East coast?

I ask because all the "Expressways" that don't allow motorcycles (a law that needs to change) are colored yellow on the maps, but Highway 60 isn't. But, it has the "expressway" symbol for it's number sign.

Thanks! BB
I can't answer your question, but today I saw a person dead in the road who was riding a motorbike on the highway. A truck hit him. I'm still shook up about it. Actually, I'm shaking. This is the second such accident I've seen in the past few weeks. It's no fun watching people die.... Crying or Very sad I hope they keep them off the highways in Korea because it's dangerous.

Take care
V.


That logic would mean cars should stay off the roads as well because they get into wrecks.

Bikes that can travel above the speed limit shouldn't be banned from the highways. Korea is an odd exception to this idea, and the gov't is considering changing the law. I have a lot of experience traveling on US interstates, including busy ones. It's no more dangerous than other roads, the dangers are just different. Traveling at higher speeds is a different danger than having someone turn left in front of a bike at a crossroad.

Here, I have to travel the national highways instead of the expressways. That means I do 120kph in an 80kph zone instead of doing 120kph in a 110kph zone. For traveling quickly, even at the speed limit, expressways are safer because there aren't intersecting roads or sudden changes in the road.

But the important question is: Can motorcycles travel legally on Highway 60 from Seoul to Yangyang?
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bassexpander



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The difference is safety, IMHO.

I don't see Koreans driving safely or acting responsibly, wearing helmets, etc.. As soon as they change that law, a lot of people are going to die at first.

I want to see the law changed, too, but they need to make the law for bikes 600cc and above ONLY. The 400cc Honda delivery people would be ticked, but so be it. I've owned a 400cc all the way up to a 1200cc. I've driven my 400cc on the highway, and it just wasn't heavy enough to be safe -- especially above 50 to 60mph.

They're also going to have lots of yayhoos doing 200km/hr+ with their sport bikes as soon as the law changes, because when it comes to driving, there is little self-control going on around here. Deaths and accidents will be a big problem until they clamp down on speeders.
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Vicissitude



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:33 am    Post subject: Re: Motorcycle on highway question... Reply with quote

Bibbitybop wrote:
Vicissitude wrote:
Bibbitybop wrote:
For all those that travel Korea by motorcycle:

Are motorcycles allowed on Highway 60, the highway that runs from Seoul to Yangyang on the East coast?

I ask because all the "Expressways" that don't allow motorcycles (a law that needs to change) are colored yellow on the maps, but Highway 60 isn't. But, it has the "expressway" symbol for it's number sign.

Thanks! BB
I can't answer your question, but today I saw a person dead in the road who was riding a motorbike on the highway. A truck hit him. I'm still shook up about it. Actually, I'm shaking. This is the second such accident I've seen in the past few weeks. It's no fun watching people die.... Crying or Very sad I hope they keep them off the highways in Korea because it's dangerous.

Take care
V.


That logic would mean cars should stay off the roads as well because they get into wrecks.

Bikes that can travel above the speed limit shouldn't be banned from the highways. Korea is an odd exception to this idea, and the gov't is considering changing the law. I have a lot of experience traveling on US interstates, including busy ones. It's no more dangerous than other roads, the dangers are just different. Traveling at higher speeds is a different danger than having someone turn left in front of a bike at a crossroad.

Here, I have to travel the national highways instead of the expressways. That means I do 120kph in an 80kph zone instead of doing 120kph in a 110kph zone. For traveling quickly, even at the speed limit, expressways are safer because there aren't intersecting roads or sudden changes in the road.

But the important question is: Can motorcycles travel legally on Highway 60 from Seoul to Yangyang?

Did you read what I wrote? I'm really not kidding. Have you seen people die from motorbike accidents? It's a lot more dangerous riding a motorbike on the highway than a truck. I mean it's just common sense here. A lot of Asians would like to see them off the highways because they don't like seeing the accidents either. Asia isn't the USA, Canada, Australia or Europe... Asia is crammed tight with so many vehicles and these bikes are always weaving in and out of traffic with very near misses. One wrong little move and the guy on the motorbike is dead. I'm sorry to sound like a drama queen here but I'm still really shook up today. So forgive me, okay.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:42 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

As crap as this sounds, I think you take that added safety risk riding a motorbike. You are the first crumple zone and unfortunately 'sheet' happens. I'd never touch one because of that risk, I know people who love the thrill of it. If there wasn't that thrill I doubt people would do it. You accept the risk. The fact that Korea, as much of Asia rides without wearing a helmet is beyond me.
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Bibbitybop



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

bassexpander: Any bike that can maintain the speed limit, or above it since everyone speeds, should be allowed on the road, regardless of engine size.

Vicissitude: It sucks that you had to see that, but bloody accidents come in many forms, from motorcycles, to cars, to falling down stairs. It's no reason to keep people from using their preferred method of transportation.


I'm fully aware of the risks of motorcycles. I've taken the MSF training courses, have ridden for years and also watched many of my friends get injured from riding irresponsibly.


Highway 60 to Yangyang: Legal for bikes or not?
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GoldMember



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 4:52 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Overseas studies show that the safest place for Motorcycles is in fact on Highways. This is because there are no lights, most collisions occour at interesections. Unfortunantely Koreans are a**holes on highways, tailgating, swerving, not indicating, braking suddenly for no reason.
The Korean law has nothing to do with safety, its to restrict imports of larger bikes. Just another Korean hidden barrier to imports.
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CentralCali



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 5:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love riding as a passenger on a motorcycle. However, there's absolutely no way I'll get on one in South Korea. The general attitude towards driving is "Who cares?" Well, I care about my life. I'll stick to riding inside a vehicle with a safety belt on.

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Ryst Helmut



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 6:16 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

BB,

I, nor my wife, could find any definitive answer online (imagine that). I suggest having a Korean friend ring up the area police or the highway division.

http://www.himan.co.kr/

I never rode that way...sorry, can't be of much help.

!shoosh,

Ryst
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Bibbitybop



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 2:25 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Ryst, I haven't seen that site before.
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JungMin



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 2:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a bike for a few years here.....travelled all over. And as far as I know, if there are tolls, you aren't allowed. Otherwise, giver.
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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:36 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought it was strange to learn that motorcycles are not allowed on toll highways as they appear to be the safest way to travel despite being at high speed. I always seen big bikes on highways everywhere I have been.


Motorcycles stay off of toll roads, but can use the smaller and older roads and are mostly used for getting around town only.
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Bibbitybop



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 3:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

sojourner1 wrote:


Motorcycles stay off of toll roads, but can use the smaller and older roads and are mostly used for getting around town only.


Not quite....national highways can be used to get everywhere in Korea, not just around town. It just takes longer since they have lower speed limits, less lanes and aren't in a straight line from point A to B.
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Underwaterbob



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PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 4:07 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

JungMin wrote:
I had a bike for a few years here.....travelled all over. And as far as I know, if there are tolls, you aren't allowed. Otherwise, giver.


I rode my 90cc autobai on a toll highway once. They charged me 1000원 and let me go no problem.
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