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fromtheuk



Joined: 31 Mar 2007

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 6:25 pm    Post subject: Sickness Reply with quote

I want to know from my esteemed cafeers, preferably public school employees, how many sick days have you taken off work?

Also, I've read here about various co-teachers visiting the sick employee, or asking a doctor to call the sick employee etc.

I've also read about various co-teachers fuming because the native teacher wouldn't come into work.

I think it is pretty cheeky to check up on someone in the ways described on this forum.

Lastly, did you notice any tension/anger on behalf of your co-teacher when you returned to work?

I haven't taken any days off sick, and I have been here for almost 7 months now.

Thanks.
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 6:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm on my 3rd public contract:

First year - all 15 calendar days... long story, but it was due to trauma (broken clavicle) and I was hospitalized.

Second year - one day (the first day of my new contract) to go to a dentist after discovering I had an absess in my jaw while flying back to K-land.

Third year - zero days (so far).

I would never take a sick day without having a reason, and don't respect those who do.
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boyne11



Joined: 08 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 7:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cruisemonkey wrote:


I would never take a sick day without having a reason, and don't respect those who do.


We all have reasons for taking SICK leave don't we?

1. Physically (Medical) reasons.
2. SICK of ko-tex'(co-teacher) BS.
3. SICK of working at crappy PS.
4. Hangover from night before (followed by severe headache & vomitting).

What else? Laughing Razz
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cruisemonkey



Joined: 04 Jul 2005
Location: Hopefully, the same place as my luggage.

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 7:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

boyne11 wrote:
2. SICK of ko-tex'(co-teacher) BS.


LOL... Only 1.5 of my seven co-teachers can speak English well enough to give me any BS. Cool
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Gamecock



Joined: 26 Nov 2003

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 7:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've not taken any sick days this year...

Koreans generally don't take sick days unless they are hospitalized, and the concept of using sick days is really frowned upon in this culture (which seems a contrast to the need to go to the doctor every time they have a headache). Also privacy is not really an esteemed issue here. So you do here bizarre stories of co-teachers showing up at your home to check on you or offering/demanding to take you to the hospital. I've not heard so many stories of coteachers fuming because someone takes a sick day.

However, one thing to keep in mind is that your coteacher is essentially made responsible for you by the principal/school district, etc. So they are often under alot of pressure to make sure the enigma that is the foreign teacher is doing his/her job. This may explain some of the bizarre behavior.
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boyne11



Joined: 08 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 7:22 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gamecock wrote:


However, one thing to keep in mind is that your coteacher is essentially made responsible for you by the principal/school district, etc. So they are often under alot of pressure to make sure the enigma that is the foreign teacher is doing his/her job. This may explain some of the bizarre behavior.


ko-texes are not responsible for us. It's the HEAD master who is responsible. and they are not under a lot of pressure, rather, some are xenophobic, anti-waegook, and resentful of us for some odd reason(s).

And it doesn't explain the bizarre behavior of ko-tex'. maybe it's just that time of the month... Wink
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nomad-ish



Joined: 08 Oct 2007
Location: On the bottom of the food chain

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 7:53 pm    Post subject: Re: Sickness Reply with quote

fromtheuk wrote:
I want to know from my esteemed cafeers, preferably public school employees, how many sick days have you taken off work?

Also, I've read here about various co-teachers visiting the sick employee, or asking a doctor to call the sick employee etc.

I've also read about various co-teachers fuming because the native teacher wouldn't come into work.

I think it is pretty cheeky to check up on someone in the ways described on this forum.

Lastly, did you notice any tension/anger on behalf of your co-teacher when you returned to work?

I haven't taken any days off sick, and I have been here for almost 7 months now.

Thanks.



i've used 4 days so far in 9mths. and yes, my co-teacher came to my apt. she probably came because i turned off my phone (because she and another co-teacher were texting & phoning me ALL morning (15 msgs+), and i couldn't get any sleep...so, phone off.
i have a video screen, so i saw her at my door and didn't answer. she proceeded to rang that goddamn doorbell LITERALLY 30 times or more. it was SO COMPLETELY annoying, i almost got out of bed to tell her off.
anyways, she left and she also left me a nasty little note calling me a liar on my door.

when i did come back to work, i told one of my good co-teachers what she did and eventually my main co-teacher came to apologize. overall when i went back to work, i got lots of people asking me how i was and what was wrong with me, etc. another unpleasant surprise i had, was i was taken to the VP's desk in the office, and asked to explain myself briefly with my co-teacher translating. i was told do NOT turn off your cell, i of course told her it was because i couldn't get any rest because my co-teachers were constantly calling and txting me, but my co-teacher didn't translate that. Evil or Very Mad

and yes, i was actually sick.

at my next job (if it's in korea), i will definitely at the very beginning, establish a procedure with my co-teacher, if and when i'm sick. and that procedure would include not harassing me at my apt Rolling Eyes
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 8:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

In 8 years here I've missed a total of 4 days -- 2 days twice, prearranged, for necessary eye surgery I tried to but couldnt get scheduled on a weekend.
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Dome Vans
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PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 8:44 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I would never take a sick day without having a reason, and don't respect those who do.


Ditto this. Find it strange for people to think that they can almost double their holiday entitlement by taking their sick days as holiday even when they are not sick. Having a hangover and not going to work is a shootable offence, and pretty childish in my books.

I've never taken a sick day ever in my life, that's about 14 years without a sick day. Doubt I'll start taking them in Korea.
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schwa



Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:13 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have some say over a contract that governs about 160 teachers that presently includes 15 days annual sick leave. I think thats way too generous -- some regard those days as an entitlement. Use even half of them & youre generating some serious resentment among your Korean colleagues & administrators. Serious doctor-substantiated issues, no problem. I'm thinking 5 days would be more realistic, with a requirement for documents beyond that. Would that be unfair?
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boyne11



Joined: 08 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

schwa wrote:
I have some say over a contract that governs about 160 teachers that presently includes 15 days annual sick leave. I think thats way too generous -- some regard those days as an entitlement. Use even half of them & youre generating some serious resentment among your Korean colleagues & administrators. Serious doctor-substantiated issues, no problem. I'm thinking 5 days would be more realistic, with a requirement for documents beyond that. Would that be unfair?


Yeah, I agree with you 0% Rolling Eyes

Why don't you think about reducing your salary rate by half. Rolling Eyes Rolling Eyes
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crazy tigger



Joined: 06 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think anything after 5 days it is fair to ask for a doctors note, after all at that point you shuld see a doctor anyway if you aretoo sick to work.
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MarionG



Joined: 14 Sep 2006

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:51 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have taken 1 day in 9 months. Doctor called my director, told her I couldn't come in. But time for my first class and guess what? Phone rings, where are you? Why aren't you here?

Next day, a Saturday, she shows up in the morning...I went to the door in a bathrobe, hair going 16 directions...I was not very pleasant.
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PGF



Joined: 27 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

back hoe I used all of my sick days as did all of my co-workers. We called them personal days.

Here, I use all of my sick days. The contract states that I have to produce a doctor's note if I use a sicky, which I do.

When the boss tried to take me to the hospital I kindly told him "F8uck off, you're not my mom, I can go to the doctor by myself".

If they are in your contract, use them. A doctor visit costs 3000W.

The boyscouts who've never yused a sick day and would never use one unless they were dying are frraks of nature and need to get back to 1953 where they belong. The Beaver misses them.
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crazy tigger



Joined: 06 Aug 2006

PostPosted: Sat Dec 15, 2007 9:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And the people who are justlazyand skive off work need to grow up.
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