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When did Santa move to Finland?
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Boodleheimer



Joined: 10 Mar 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 8:45 pm    Post subject: When did Santa move to Finland? Reply with quote

i've been talking about US christmas traditions and i asked the class where Santa lived... i guess they've all been watching Finnish airline commercials (perhaps the one that looks like a Coke commercial, but it's got reindeer), because they all said Finland.
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SeoulShakin



Joined: 05 Jan 2006
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

One of my Korean friends (who went to High School and University in Canada) also told me Santa lives in Finland. That's what all Koreans are told when they are kids.

I told him that Santa is from the North Pole (which I argued was part of Canada, but that's besides the point - I was just trying to get him going). He said "Nothing is at the North Pole, how could Santa live there? That's stupid. Obviously he's from Finland!"

Who knew.
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ajgeddes



Joined: 28 Apr 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:11 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love it. Arguing over where a fictional character is from. What's next? Jesus?
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oldfatfarang



Joined: 19 May 2005
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 9:24 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Santa does indeed live in Finland. He lives in a small town up north (in Lapland) called Rovaniemi.

Years ago, I hitched from NZ to the top of Finland (to see the Midnight Sun). One of my rides dropped me off in Rovaniemi and they took me to visit Santa. A bit embarrassing sitting on this old guy's knee - but the Fins went crazy wild when he said, "You're a long way from home."

The Artic Circle disects Rovaniemi and I had some fun jumping over the line. I stayed with some Laps (reindeer people) and caught a salmon. A magical place - and a magical experience. It even convinced an old cynic like me that there really is a Santa Claus.
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endo



Joined: 14 Mar 2004
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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Santa Clause character is essentally a representation of an indeginous shaman from the arctic regions of Europe.

So yes, Finland could concievably be the origin of the the Santa Clause story.

Although it goes much deeper than that.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
Location: Seoul, South Korea

PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Santa just better watch out for trolls.


ajgeddes wrote:
I love it. Arguing over where a fictional character is from. What's next? Jesus?


Shut up. Jesus is from America.
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jennateacher



Joined: 21 Nov 2006
Location: Nonsan, Land of strawberries and rice

PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 10:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

He does indeed live in Finnland. I have met him. He is a respected urologist and head of a hospital in Helsinki for the rest of the year. He is my friend Paula's father. I have called him Dr. Santa Claus for about 10 years. When I was visiting in Feb of 1998, he gave us his car and took off on a cross country ski trip up in the Lapplands. He often wears red too.
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Ya-ta Boy



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PostPosted: Mon Dec 17, 2007 11:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I love it. Arguing over where a fictional character is from. What's next? Jesus?


Don't laugh. There is a particular Canadian who got irked at me for saying Captain Kirk of the Starship Enterprise is from Iowa. (He is. He said so.) There is a memorial in Riverside, Iowa marking where Captain Kirk will be born sometime in the future. Some people just can't handle the truth about their fictional characters.
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Binch Lover



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 7:08 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Santa comes from Lapland. Lapland is in Finland. Therefore Santa is from Finland. Pretty simple.
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ajgeddes



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 7:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And what about the Flying Spaghetti Monster? Where's he from?
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mistermasan



Joined: 20 Sep 2007
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 7:52 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and jesus is a christian.
and confucius was chinese.
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RACETRAITOR



Joined: 24 Oct 2005
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 7:59 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Santa Claus is really based on a historical person who actually lived, just like Jesus. If you believe that Jesus really lived, why not Saint Nicholas? Neither of them can help the mythologising their personas underwent post mortem.

I've been rallying for a big chance in the Christian Trinity--kick out the Holy Spirit and replace it with Santa Claus. Think about it--kids love Santa, but who cares about the Holy Spirit? It's got as much personality as an answering machine, and pretty well functions as one. Santa's popularity at times surpasses Jesus'.
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mistermasan



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 8:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

santa is dead. jesus, if he ever lived, is dead. all we have is each other, here, and now.

love your neighbor as you love yourself...but i don't even know my neighbors nanes.
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nobbyken



Joined: 07 Jun 2006
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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

RACETRAITOR wrote:
Santa Claus is really based on a historical person who actually lived, just like Jesus. If you believe that Jesus really lived, why not Saint Nicholas? Neither of them can help the mythologising their personas underwent post mortem.

I've been rallying for a big chance in the Christian Trinity--kick out the Holy Spirit and replace it with Santa Claus. Think about it--kids love Santa, but who cares about the Holy Spirit? It's got as much personality as an answering machine, and pretty well functions as one. Santa's popularity at times surpasses Jesus'.


We grew up believing that Santa came from Lapland (didn't know where it was though), but to believe that he still delivers gifts these days is non-sensical.

As for Santas popularity being so high, well Santa is an anagram of Satan although to make any connection would be unjustified.

Christmas is the time remembered for Gods gift to the world, and a time of peace and giving.
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mj roach



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 18, 2007 10:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"What's next?"....news flash...Cinderella is Chinese!!
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