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huck



Joined: 19 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:11 pm    Post subject: Declaring Bankruptcy... Reply with quote

I..uh..have a "friend" who...Smile

Has anyone ever declared bankruptcy for back home while being here? Do you know if it's possible to do it outside of your home country?

I'm weighing the benefits/penalites between declaring for bankruptcy or trying to figure out and consolidate all of my unpaid bills are from when I had too many credit cards in university (which have all multiplied endlessly due to overdue interest charges)...

I'd like to finally get it taken care of, so if anyone has any suggestions, I'd appreciate it.

thanks..
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ttompatz



Joined: 05 Sep 2005
Location: Kwangju, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:16 pm    Post subject: Re: Declaring Bankruptcy... Reply with quote

huck wrote:
I..uh..have a "friend" who...Smile

Has anyone ever declared bankruptcy for back home while being here? Do you know if it's possible to do it outside of your home country?

I'm weighing the benefits/penalites between declaring for bankruptcy or trying to figure out and consolidate all of my unpaid bills are from when I had too many credit cards in university (which have all multiplied endlessly due to overdue interest charges)...

I'd like to finally get it taken care of, so if anyone has any suggestions, I'd appreciate it.

thanks..


It depends on where back home is.

Usually you have to be resident to file for bankruptcy or bankruptcy protection.
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davai!



Joined: 04 Dec 2005
Location: Kuwait

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 5:41 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

how much is your debt?
is it all credit cards?
when was the last time you made a payment on these debts?
how old are you?
are you planning on buying a house soon?


if it is credit cards, you may be better off waiting 7 years (from date of last payment) or settling on them after 3-5 years.

look into the laws of your state. After a certain time they can't sue you over the debt and after 7 years it comes off your credit report.

Also, write your creditors/collectors now and tell them to only contact you by mail. That will stop the annoying phone calls.

This applies if you're American. Don't know others' laws.
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mrsquirrel



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:03 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

UK has no statute of limitations.

So if you try and hide they will one day find you if you go back.

You can't claim bankrupt of a student loan in the UK any more either.

If you have actually bumped your cards it would be a good idea to pay of the first two instalments so they don't come after you for fraud/theft.
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Wangja



Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

mrsquirrel wrote:
UK has no statute of limitations.

So if you try and hide they will one day find you if you go back.

You can't claim bankrupt of a student loan in the UK any more either.

If you have actually bumped your cards it would be a good idea to pay of the first two instalments so they don't come after you for fraud/theft.


England has a statute of limitations: it is 6 years for contracts "under hand" and 12 years for those "under seal".

There are certain exceptions, eg murder and HMRC.
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newteacher



Joined: 31 May 2007

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 6:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're from the US and have a job chances are you will not be able to declare bankruptcy. A few years back they changed the standards for bankruptcy to heavily favor the creditors in any disputes, so now it's nearly impossible to declare.
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mrsquirrel



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:15 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wangja wrote:
mrsquirrel wrote:
UK has no statute of limitations.

So if you try and hide they will one day find you if you go back.

You can't claim bankrupt of a student loan in the UK any more either.

If you have actually bumped your cards it would be a good idea to pay of the first two instalments so they don't come after you for fraud/theft.


England has a statute of limitations: it is 6 years for contracts "under hand" and 12 years for those "under seal".

There are certain exceptions, eg murder and HMRC.


Interesting.

I looked into this and the way I read it there was no SOL in the UK.

Appears I was mistaken - although it might be that Scotland and England are different.
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Wangja



Joined: 17 May 2004
Location: Seoul, Yongsan

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Certainly Scottish law is different - there is in fact no such thing as British or UK law.

If there is a SoL in Scotland I know not, but I would expect there to be.

In England the basic rule is 6 years after you acknowledge the debt it dies.
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mrsquirrel



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Searching around it appears Scottish law is 5 years.

How do you acknowledge the debt? I presume that by making a couple of payments then defaulting that would do the trick.
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huck



Joined: 19 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:40 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

USA...

Would "they" be aware of the fact that I have a well-paying job in another country? Or do you think they only have records of my USA assets, which would be a couple of thousand dollars in an account there?

And, I'm not trying to sneak away and get out of my debt scot-free...It's just that contemplating about how to pay everything off, and how to find what I owe, and how to organize everything from here seems a bit overwhelming.
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GoldMember



Joined: 24 Oct 2006

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:43 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most of the time stupid people file for bankruptcy, as most bankrupts actually don't have large debts. Do what the smart people do NEGOTIATE a settlement, years ago I negotiated 8 cents in the dollar with a bank, a few weeks later I got new credit cards from them!
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newteacher



Joined: 31 May 2007

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

huck wrote:
USA...

Would "they" be aware of the fact that I have a well-paying job in another country? Or do you think they only have records of my USA assets, which would be a couple of thousand dollars in an account there?

And, I'm not trying to sneak away and get out of my debt scot-free...It's just that contemplating about how to pay everything off, and how to find what I owe, and how to organize everything from here seems a bit overwhelming.


they may not be aware that you have a well paying job, but unless there's some ailment preventing you from working my guess is you won't be able to declare bankruptcy. worse, if you attempt to, they might seize any assets you do have, and still force you to pay or go further into debt.
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kat2



Joined: 25 Oct 2005
Location: Busan, South Korea

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

OP, try contacting one of the many non-profit credit counseling services. They can really reduce your debt and help you plan out a way to pay it off. Bankrupcies affect your credit score for 7 years, but they never stop appearing on your report. If you ever intend to settle in teh states again, then you should try not to declare bankrupcy. You'll be paying 15% on loans forever
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huck



Joined: 19 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Wed Dec 12, 2007 7:50 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

GoldMember wrote:
Most of the time stupid people file for bankruptcy, as most bankrupts actually don't have large debts. Do what the smart people do NEGOTIATE a settlement, years ago I negotiated 8 cents in the dollar with a bank, a few weeks later I got new credit cards from them!


How did it affect your credit rating? Granted, mine is probably really bad anyways, but do they put a note in your credit report, or....
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mountainous



Joined: 04 Sep 2007
Location: Los Angeles

PostPosted: Thu Dec 13, 2007 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

hakwon owners might have some valuable advice on this topic Laughing
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