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Trevor



Joined: 16 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:39 am    Post subject: Looking for a fast PC Reply with quote

It's for music production. Gaming computers work good for music, also because sound files and audio plugins eat up lots of processor and RAM. Where's the best deal for mail order? I am in Busan, so I can't do the Seoul Markets.

I know Danawa but I'm just a dumb wagook and I don't know how to search.
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try here on the left.

http://pc.danawa.com/price.html?defSite=PC&cate1=860&cate2=865
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tractor



Joined: 26 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 1:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

what operating system are you going to run? what music gear are you going to hook up to it?
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Trevor



Joined: 16 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:22 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for that, Spliff. I want a fast hard drive with a 32 mg cache, I think. Can I customize those? I am thinking of the one on the bottom for $777 unless there's a better one.




spliff wrote:
Try here on the left.

http://pc.danawa.com/price.html?defSite=PC&cate1=860&cate2=865


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Trevor



Joined: 16 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

XP. Vista sucks for music I am told. Running your basic USB midi devices with a standard PCI soundcard for now, though I may upgrade the card.



tractor wrote:
what operating system are you going to run? what music gear are you going to hook up to it?
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 3:41 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Trevor wrote:
thanks for that. I want a core duo I guess and I don't see any, or am I looking wrong. Also, I want an Intel processor, right?



spliff wrote:
Try here on the left.

http://pc.danawa.com/price.html?defSite=PC&cate1=860&cate2=865


Dude there must be 150 pc's there just click on any from 400 - 600,000.

How much do you want to spend? Do you need a monitor?

W/out a monitor 400,000 should see you right. Of course, the more you spend the better the specs. You would probably want 500g's or more hard drive space since your working w/music files. That'll be a little extra, but not much. There's a site that lets you build your own system but I don't have the link on my new com....ecoda or something like that. It's all gonna come down to what you're willing to spend. Give a figure and I'm sure some folks here will be willing to offer suggestions.
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Trevor



Joined: 16 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:06 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

The last one on the left of the link you gave me. That's the one I want, for $777

I see that it's a Quad processor. That's perfect. does anybody know is there anything on that machine that would be counter to good Audio producion? Anything else I should look at? Thanks.

spliff wrote:
Trevor wrote:
thanks for that. I want a core duo I guess and I don't see any, or am I looking wrong. Also, I want an Intel processor, right?



spliff wrote:
Try here on the left.

http://pc.danawa.com/price.html?defSite=PC&cate1=860&cate2=865


Dude there must be 150 pc's there just click on any from 400 - 600,000.

How much do you want to spend? Do you need a monitor?

W/out a monitor 400,000 should see you right. Of course, the more you spend the better the specs. You would probably want 500g's or more hard drive space since your working w/music files. That'll be a little extra, but not much. There's a site that lets you build your own system but I don't have the link on my new com....ecoda or something like that. It's all gonna come down to what you're willing to spend. Give a figure and I'm sure some folks here will be willing to offer suggestions.
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tractor



Joined: 26 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:31 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

are you sure you need a quad? Music production isn't as demanding on the CPU as much as video and 3d. I would get a decent dual core and spend the extra on RAM, sound card, mixer, or monitor speakers. Even a dual monitor setup is really handy for music production.
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Trevor



Joined: 16 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use a lot of VST's. They eat processor like you wouldn't believe.

tractor wrote:
are you sure you need a quad? Music production isn't as demanding on the CPU as much as video and 3d. I would get a decent dual core and spend the extra on RAM, sound card, mixer, or monitor speakers. Even a dual monitor setup is really handy for music production.
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chevro1et



Joined: 01 Feb 2007
Location: Busan, ROK

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 4:47 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

A quad wont help you unless the software supports multi-threading to that level.

The new Wolfdale 45nm Intels seem to be mopping the floor with the previous gen of Conroe duals. One of the OC forums that I frequent has a load of guys hitting 4+ghz on air cooling with way lower temps and voltage than the Conroe duals or quads. Dunno about availability or pricing here in Korea though.
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tractor



Joined: 26 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:07 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I run logic on a dual core hackintosh. Never had any problems with cpu load even if i use a bunch of plugins (AU/VST) at once. But i'm on the other spectrum with OS X/Logic, so maybe it's different for XP/Cubase.
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eamo



Joined: 08 Mar 2003
Location: Shepherd's Bush, 1964.

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 5:45 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Audio programs don't stress modern CPU's much. Spend your money on sound cards, amp and speakers.

Remember, what you hear from your speakers is analogue. In the digital realm audio is very simple. Information in= quality. But to convert to an analogue signal for speakers you need a sound card with a superior DAC. I don't know much about soundcards. Read the reviews.
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Trevor



Joined: 16 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 7:40 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I use Ableton. I sometimes use 20 VST's in a song and I want to be able to use 24 tracks at once. Can you do that on a Dual core Mac?

tractor wrote:
I run logic on a dual core hackintosh. Never had any problems with cpu load even if i use a bunch of plugins (AU/VST) at once. But i'm on the other spectrum with OS X/Logic, so maybe it's different for XP/Cubase.
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tractor



Joined: 26 Jan 2008

PostPosted: Wed Jan 30, 2008 8:35 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I can't speak for Ableton since i haven't used it since version 3. But with logic I've had 12 instrumental software synth tracks + several audio tracks with loops with more than 20 AU/VSTplugins and the CPU never went past 50%. Even if i used NI Kore with tons of compressor/effects plugins layered over several other layers of software synths, it didn't make that much of a difference. But we are comparing apples to oranges here. i'm on OS X/Logic and you are on XP/Ableton. Logic was written by Apple so the quality of software integration is very high. + I have 2 gigs of 800mhz ram which help quite a bit.

It also depends on how well the plugins are written. Logic does a thorough evaluation on all the plugins installed and if there are any problems with them, it will either permit you from using them or caution you about possible problems when used. I never bother with faulty plugins that might be incompatible and as a result i have seldom issues when working.
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