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Treefarmer



Joined: 29 May 2007

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 3:33 pm    Post subject: tips for adapting to coming home? Reply with quote

i've been back in england for a couple of weeks now, and everything is so fucking difficult after 2 years in korea

specially how my experience actually counts against me for a lot of the jobs i want because they don't understand why i am changing careers again

plus the whole not being rich thing

does anyone have any tips for this?
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Treefarmer



Joined: 29 May 2007

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 3:39 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

or friendly words Very Happy
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Dome Vans
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 3:46 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I feel for you Treefarmer. There's always the honeymoon period when getting home, usually a few weeks until you become yesterday's news and then you realise that everything has moved on, people have new jobs, partners etc. Then there's the grim realisation that you've got to get a job.
Everybody has a degree in England, so now the chances of getting a worthwhile job are reduced.

England now is not the kind of working climate I ever want to get back into. Jobs are either call centres or "lifers" jobs. I want neither. What are the chances of you moving somewhere else to work? In Europe maybe? I can't see the current climate in England getting any better.

I'm coming back in a couple of weeks for christmas and new year, and I think I'll find that strange enough, especially landing at Heathrow.
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patongpanda



Joined: 06 Feb 2007

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 3:58 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Commiserations Treefarmer, I'd be up a poo stream without a paddle.
What kind of job are you looking for?
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Treefarmer



Joined: 29 May 2007

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 4:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

i kind of made a pact with myself to stick out a few months in england at least

just so that i know i can.....

the landing in london is fucking horrible as well, armed police all over the shop, and they sprayed me for birdflu.
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Zark



Joined: 12 May 2003
Location: Phuket, Thailand: Look into my eyes . . .

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 4:04 pm    Post subject: Re: tips for adapting to coming home? Reply with quote

Treefarmer wrote:
does anyone have any tips for this?


Don't go home . . . Twisted Evil

A real dilemma - Not sure how I would deal with it as I have been working overseas since 1989. Except, maybe after such a long time it would seem like a foreign culture and be all interesting - until the dehumanizing job search began . . . Crying or Very sad

My sympathies!
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Treefarmer



Joined: 29 May 2007

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 4:05 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

patongpanda wrote:
Commiserations Treefarmer, I'd be up a poo stream without a paddle.
What kind of job are you looking for?


i was looking for jobs involving using languages and/or researching, but having spent all my money on debts and it being christmas i'm now looking for any job at all
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JAWINSEOUL



Joined: 19 Nov 2005

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 4:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not from England, but I wouldn't worry so much. It will take you a little time to settle back into the culture and surroundings before you feel confident about your future.

Right now I'm sure you are a little lost and employers see that. Once you settle in you will back to your old self and and you will project nothing but good qualities.

When things are meant to happen they will, just relax and let it happen. Very Happy
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Dome Vans
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 4:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

"..being sprayed for birdflu" oh my days!

It's mentally hard to go back. The NI and Tax people will be asking "where have you been..?" "Abroad, get stuffed." Employers will be much the same.

You've got a British visa, work in Europe. Nobody should feel as though they have anything to prove by working in Britain for even a short time. It's up to you though. Getting a shitty job just for the sake of it is not worth it. If you're looking at language work then there shouldn't be a problem. If short term, aren't there English winter camps in London at the Universitys for foreign students, that'd work short term until you can decide a bit more.

I'm planning at the moment. I will work here for two years, maybe a third and then I'll go to Sweden do their PGCE course for a year and a half and then teach English there. I was looking on the internet last night about what I need to do, pass the Swedish exam, which are held twice a year, get a uni place and then off. I don't want a gap in the middle that would mean having to get a job in England.

Wow, the negativity. Sorry. It's coming up to christmas as well. Hope it all goes well.
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Treefarmer



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 4:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the reason i'm wanting to stay in england for a bit is cos i am making music and i have connections here

and there's a girl (theres always a girl.....)

re: the language camps, i'm in newcastle and it seems like there are only 5 employers in the city for language jobs.....

sorry for the negaticity on my part too, i think i just needed a moan....
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Treefarmer



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 4:28 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

and jesusfucking christ is it weird that i crave kimchi and those rednblack noodles Very Happy
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The King of Kwangju



Joined: 10 Feb 2003
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 6:31 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would give it a year. Make yourself stay a year. If you can't get anything started in a year, then go back to Korea.

And tuning in to Dave's probably helps. Keeps you in touch with other teachers and what's going on here.
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twg



Joined: 02 Nov 2006
Location: Getting some fresh air...

PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry son. Once you get the "living in exotic lands" virus in you, you can never recover from it.
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da_moler



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 7:36 pm    Post subject: Re: tips for adapting to coming home? Reply with quote

Treefarmer wrote:
i've been back in england for a couple of weeks now, and everything is so *beep* difficult after 2 years in korea

specially how my experience actually counts against me for a lot of the jobs i want because they don't understand why i am changing careers again

plus the whole not being rich thing

does anyone have any tips for this?


Treefarmer, I think I'm going to be in the same boat as you, heading back to the pretty dismal employment prospects in the UK just because I can't really see myself wanting to live in Korea for the rest of my life.

So let us know how it goes. I'm especially interested to know how employers see the experience we've got in Korea. It'd be nice to think that they see us as "international" types, and thus perfect for international graduate-type jobs such as in banking. But.... who knows?
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Dome Vans
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 09, 2007 10:29 pm    Post subject: Re: tips for adapting to coming home? Reply with quote

da_moler wrote:
Treefarmer wrote:
i've been back in england for a couple of weeks now, and everything is so *beep* difficult after 2 years in korea

specially how my experience actually counts against me for a lot of the jobs i want because they don't understand why i am changing careers again

plus the whole not being rich thing

does anyone have any tips for this?


Treefarmer, I think I'm going to be in the same boat as you, heading back to the pretty dismal employment prospects in the UK just because I can't really see myself wanting to live in Korea for the rest of my life.

So let us know how it goes. I'm especially interested to know how employers see the experience we've got in Korea. It'd be nice to think that they see us as "international" types, and thus perfect for international graduate-type jobs such as in banking. But.... who knows?


What I think is interesting would be to stay in Korea for an extra year, save up, make plans for a next step and then jump from that to your next job. You'll save far more money here, it'll be more interesting than getting a job working at Natwest Securities Office in Sheffield. If I had the option of the two, I'd stay put, better the devil you know.

I don't see myself being here more than a couple of years. It's a really interesting sojourn and it'll help me bide my time before moving on. The idea of a soul destroying bank job in England makes me shudder and pass out, banging my head on the coffee table as I fall.
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