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mistermasan



Joined: 20 Sep 2007
Location: 10+ yrs on Dave's ESL cafe

PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 2:58 am    Post subject: define "criminal"... Reply with quote

with the new hoops to jump through, what exactly is "criminal"? is a parking ticket unpaid "criminal"? underage possession of alcohol, in a "sealed" juvenile record (but these things now get unsealed too often) twenty years ago...is this criminal?

i see the term thrown around, but what is the the coordinating authorities working definition of "criminal"?
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VanIslander



Joined: 18 Aug 2003
Location: Geoje, Hadong, Tongyeong,... now in a small coastal island town outside Gyeongsangnamdo!

PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 3:01 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

adult conviction of a felony

(not a misdemeanor)

it's really quite cut and dry
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Jackofall



Joined: 29 Nov 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 3:53 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have also been wondering about that definition. Disorderly Conduct here (cops just don�t have any sense of humor these days) Twisted Evil

Can you please link where you got that definition please.

Thank you.
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Sleepy in Seoul



Joined: 15 May 2004
Location: Going in ever decreasing circles until I eventually disappear up my own fundament - in NZ

PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:17 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

VanIslander wrote:
adult conviction of a felony

(not a misdemeanor)

it's really quite cut and dry

What's a felony? (It's not a word we use where I come from.)
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Demophobe



Joined: 17 May 2004

PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:50 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sleepy in Seoul wrote:
VanIslander wrote:
adult conviction of a felony

(not a misdemeanor)

it's really quite cut and dry

What's a felony? (It's not a word we use where I come from.)


Pay me enough and I will install Google for you.

Wink
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Jackofall



Joined: 29 Nov 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:57 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

In the USA

Felony = 1 or more years you could serve in jail if convicted, usually the more serious crimes.

Misdemeanor = less than a year that you could serve in jail if convicted.
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yingwenlaoshi



Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 6:24 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Demophobe wrote:
Sleepy in Seoul wrote:
VanIslander wrote:
adult conviction of a felony

(not a misdemeanor)

it's really quite cut and dry

What's a felony? (It's not a word we use where I come from.)


Pay me enough and I will install Google for you.

Wink


Thazfunny Yaahh.
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Sleepy in Seoul



Joined: 15 May 2004
Location: Going in ever decreasing circles until I eventually disappear up my own fundament - in NZ

PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 2:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Demophobe wrote:
Sleepy in Seoul wrote:
VanIslander wrote:
adult conviction of a felony

(not a misdemeanor)

it's really quite cut and dry

What's a felony? (It's not a word we use where I come from.)

Pay me enough and I will install Google for you.

I'll give you 10 won if you can tell me where to find Google in my Applications folder Smile

It would also be cut and dried to say that all offences except Regulatory Offences should be included in a CRC.
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boyne11



Joined: 08 Jul 2007

PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 2:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

the meaning of "criminal" will vary base on the thickness of your white envelope handed to korean immi officers.
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Hotpants



Joined: 27 Jan 2006

PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 3:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Taking blu-tac from your place of work so that you can put up posters on your wall at home?
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Woden



Joined: 08 Mar 2007
Location: Eurasia

PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 4:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hotpants wrote:
Taking blu-tac from your place of work so that you can put up posters on your wall at home?


Blu-tac...in Korea?

I reckon it depends on who you apply to...I have a caution and was questioned quite a lot on it until they were convinced it wasn't violent or sexual, so I reckon it will be the same situ for the new visa business...
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livinseoul



Joined: 28 Nov 2007

PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 5:12 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

And what about DUI - is that a criminal offence.
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dutchy pink



Joined: 06 Feb 2007
Location: Incheon

PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 6:29 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have been wondering about the same thing. I am assuming any conviction, regardless of what it is, will be frowned upon.

no room to explain, "well, i could have pled guilty, paid a $40 fine and be done with it, or gone to court 6 times, taking a day off work each time, and fought it and won." The former costing $40, the latter $1000.
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Beeyee



Joined: 29 May 2007

PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 6:47 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm really worried about this.

I want to stay at least another year. My employer wants me to stay another year but I have a criminal record. Is it a blanket policy that ANY criminal offence will mean no visa?
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PGF



Joined: 27 Nov 2006

PostPosted: Fri Dec 14, 2007 7:53 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Beeyee wrote:
I'm really worried about this.

I want to stay at least another year. My employer wants me to stay another year but I have a criminal record. Is it a blanket policy that ANY criminal offence will mean no visa?


what kind of criminal record?

if it's not violent, drug related or sex related, I think you might be able to explain your circumstances and get pushed through....

I mean do you have a trespass from 10 years ago?

For example, I have a 15 year old trespass charge from when me and my girlfriend went up on the roof of a hotel and made out (then in high school). Would that keep me from getting an E-2? I don't think so if I had the chance to explain the circumstances.

Also, I have a 13 year old open-container violation - on a public street. This i snot a crime in Korea. I doubt they'd hassle me about it here, if I could explain it properly.

Also, I have about 20 speeding tickets. Most were dismissed. Are they going to care that I was going 89 MPH in a 55 zone? Not if they think it's KPH, hehehe.

Just get a Korean who understands English-e to listen to your explanations of your crimes and see if they can accompany you to wherever it is that your visa interview thing will be processed....


good luck
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