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R. S. Refugee
Joined: 29 Sep 2004
Location: Shangra La, ROK
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 Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 1:36 am Post subject: What about the new PS reform, anyway???????????????? |
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People on this forum keep talking about their daily lives teaching with their Korean co-teachers without any mention of the impending change (thanks to an LMB initiative to lower classroom size).
Right after mid-terms we will be entering a new system in which I will be teaching an 18-student class with no co-teacher present while my co-teacher will be teaching the other half of that class roster off in another room.
Am I the only PS teacher in Korea who will be experiencing this soon or does it just seem that way since (almost) no one else has mentioned this? |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:13 am Post subject: |
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This is good news if it materializes, but this is the first I've heard of it.
My school doesn't have the extra rooms to be able to pull this off successfully, so I doubt that I will see any big changes soon. |
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R. S. Refugee
Joined: 29 Sep 2004
Location: Shangra La, ROK
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| Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 2:38 am Post subject: |
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| some waygug-in wrote: |
This is good news if it materializes, but this is the first I've heard of it.
My school doesn't have the extra rooms to be able to pull this off successfully, so I doubt that I will see any big changes soon. |
They only need ONE extra room. |
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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
Location: ... location, location!
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| Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:58 am Post subject: |
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I think 12 students per class is pushing it. 8 is perfect.
18? Not much of a reform, but better. |
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R. S. Refugee
Joined: 29 Sep 2004
Location: Shangra La, ROK
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| Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 4:01 am Post subject: |
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| yingwenlaoshi wrote: |
I think 12 students per class is pushing it. 8 is perfect.
18? Not much of a reform, but better. |
When you're starting with 36, it's a noticeable (I hope) improvement. |
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Dome Vans
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| Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 4:05 am Post subject: |
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In my PS the class sizes were reduced in March. Groups were split and a part-time teacher was bought in to teach the other class. Now I have groups of ten and I'll either teach a class with the part-time teacher whilst the permanent teacher teachs the other class or he'll teach with me and the part time teacher teaches the other class. Lovely situation, I can already see the benefits of it.
At my other PS I managed to successfully lobby my co-teacher into splitting a group of 32 into two 16s. They hired a part time teacher to come in and teach the other class.
I'm EPIK though and it's sounds like the OP is talking more about the GEPIK scheme. As discussed in another thread, you don't have to sign these amendments when you are renewing. |
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Stormy
Joined: 10 Jan 2008
Location: Here & there
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| Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 4:31 am Post subject: |
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Haven't heard about it, if it happens though it will be one of those "in 5 minutes time this (insert major change) will be happening, we've known about it for a month but didn't think you'd be interested in knowing....."
I don't have a co-teacher though so can't imagine it will affect me. |
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ddeubel
Joined: 20 Jul 2005
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| Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 4:38 am Post subject: |
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I think commitment to reform is not a passive thing....
Not an obvious, overt thing either but done through the small daily work that we undertake. Not ducking under the bushes but not screaming WOLF either.
I wonder (out loud) how many of us are going to the symposium on English education reform tomorrow OR how many of us have heard of it. In either case, it is a barometer of those who really "want' reform and to which it is not just a personal gyser.
DD
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it's full of stars
Joined: 26 Dec 2007
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| Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:54 am Post subject: |
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The only time I've heard of this reform has been from you, Refugee. I'm for it provisionally, but I think it would be better to have 2 FTs per school so you could teach 2 lessons per class per week. Too much to ask for though I suppose.
I'll reserve judgement until I see any actual change though. |
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bacasper
Joined: 26 Mar 2007
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| Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 5:58 am Post subject: |
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I haven't heard of it, but I have experienced it. Since March, two of my classes have been split. I alternate which half I teach, but I always have a Kotex.
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mnhnhyouh
Joined: 21 Nov 2006
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| Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 6:08 am Post subject: |
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I would much prefer to go to classes of 20!!!
Not sure if it is happening in my school though. I will ask tomorrow.
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Kimchieluver
Joined: 02 Mar 2005
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| Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:02 am Post subject: |
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| I am going to ask tomorrow, but will probably be told nothing worth taking to the bank.. |
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yingwenlaoshi
Joined: 12 Feb 2007
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| Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 7:14 am Post subject: |
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| R. S. Refugee wrote: |
| yingwenlaoshi wrote: |
I think 12 students per class is pushing it. 8 is perfect.
18? Not much of a reform, but better. |
When you're starting with 36, it's a noticeable (I hope) improvement. |
True.
I have this class I teach on Fridays with 38 grade ones. I'm in the after-school program, but I was asked if I "wouldn't mind" teaching this one class per week. Bunch of arseholes (not the kids). And then they have the nerve to demand a lesson plan. This battle is not over. There's a head English teacher who thinks he's the cat's ass or something. They don't know how this bugs me. It's not what I signed up for.
I've already began my reign of abuse over there. I have no qualms about looking straight into the principal's eye at lunch and saying, "Why am I teaching this class for free? And I have to pay for my lunch on top of it?"
Anyway, these kids are loud and uncontrolled. I don't believe it's just with me, but I could be wrong. They're just kids, but since when do they act like this in school? They run around the hallways yelling and screaming at this school. It's a nice school, but the kids don't seem to be in control enough when they're outside class. I'll do something about that.
18 is better. Yes. Still too many though. It takes too much to make them STFU. |
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some waygug-in
Joined: 25 Jan 2003
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| Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:15 pm Post subject: |
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| R. S. Refugee wrote: |
| some waygug-in wrote: |
This is good news if it materializes, but this is the first I've heard of it.
My school doesn't have the extra rooms to be able to pull this off successfully, so I doubt that I will see any big changes soon. |
They only need ONE extra room. |
True enough, but we don't have ONE extra room. As it is, I had to surrender the room that served as my office last year so they could cram an extra class in it.
The only way I could see them making this work at my school is to schedule half the class to phys-ed or something while the other half studies English. |
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mrsquirrel
Joined: 13 Dec 2006
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| Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008 3:32 pm Post subject: |
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| How are we going to be covered for liability if we are in the classroom alone without a licensed teacher? |
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