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South Korea arrest 2 captains over oil spill

 
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Been There, Taught That



Joined: 10 Apr 2007
Location: Mungyeong: not a village, not yet a metroplex.

PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 8:06 am    Post subject: South Korea arrest 2 captains over oil spill Reply with quote

http://www.iht.com/articles/ap/2007/12/25/news/SKorea-Oil-Spill.php

I'm not posting this for the article, but it is a recent item and a recent example of bad grammar in a public forum. Hopefully teachers will get a chance to point this out, because it's one of those things that learners will be led to believe is right simply by the context and the forum it's presented in.

To me, anyway, South Koreans are more than one unit, but, South Korea is a single entity.

Even if this isn't agreeable to all, teachers are responsible for presenting general usage, and 99.9% of the time, the way this headline is presented is in conflict with everyday English.


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cruisemonkey



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 8:23 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

What the hell is "it"? Rolling Eyes
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Been There, Taught That



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 9:38 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry, you were right about that ambiguity. I was referring to the headline, the topic of the post. Hope I've made it clear now.
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some waygug-in



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 3:06 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

About the article....it was painfully obvious who was responsible for the accident, but I couldn't help but notice that they were trying desparately to shift the blame onto the captain of the tanker....(if that were possible).

They just can't accept that there's no one to blame but their fellow Koreans.
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bacasper



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 9:10 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe there are differences between British and American English in agreement of plural nouns, e.g.

The government is/are planning a meeting on the issue.
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cbclark4



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PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 9:45 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

If your going to be a grammar gestapo at least try to be correct when correcting others.

Also consider the grammar in headlines from western papers.
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CentralCali



Joined: 17 May 2007

PostPosted: Tue Dec 25, 2007 10:09 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

cbclark4 wrote:
If your going to be a grammar gestapo at least try to be correct when correcting others.


you're Very Happy

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Also consider the grammar in headlines from western papers.


Absolutely. "Headline English" and "Advertising English" aren't exactly the best examples of proper sentence construction or grammar usage.
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