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ghost



Joined: 06 Dec 2006
Location: Many congenial places

PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:32 am    Post subject: re Reply with quote

Happy - 50% of the time, but that is life. What I find disappointing is that Koreans, in general, don't seem to want to be friends with us.

I have spoken to many teachers who have been here for years, and they told me that it is very rare for foreigners to be invited into Korean homes.

I also find it very frustrating not to be very good at learning to speak Korean - and it is not for want of trying, because I study Korean basically every day, and attend 3 hours of class at KLA every Saturday in Seoul, making a round trip journey of over 4 hours by bus and subway. I speak quite a few languages (Fr., Ger., Span., Ital., Port., Turk., Mandarin., and some Japanese and Tagalog) and out of all those languages, for some reason, Korean has been the most difficult to get to grips with.

The money is good here - I make 2.7 per month, and save about $1500-$1600 per month net - I would need to make a lot of money in Canada or the U.S. to save that much, because here, I have so few expenses with the free housing, and eating out can be cheap if you eat in those 'orange' restaurants where set dishes can cost as little as 3000 won.

But, I will be honest, if it were not for the money, I would be back teaching in Central America (Guatemala/Honduras/Nicaragua) or in Latin America, where I much prefer the lifestyle, and where I feel I can relate to the people.

Korean kids are fine, but Korean adults, I find, can be difficult to deal with, and unpredictable to boot. You can get nasty surprises here in Korea.

I also face age discrimination, as a teacher in the middle aged group, I find that Korean Universities don't want to hire people past a certain age - with things getting difficult after 35 years, and then more and more so, with age. My qualifications include B.A., B.Ed., M.A., and T.E.S.L., and Certified Teacher status in Canada (ESL and French Second Language), but I am not an attractive hire because of my age.....that really irritates me. I get the feeling that I work in a country where Koreans judge teachers to be "good" solely based on looks and perceived charisma, but with little or nothing to do with expertise for the subject in question. It is like being in a popularity contest.

My contract will not be renewed where I presently work, because the Director thinks that I am 'too old.' Such is Korea.

Ghost in Korea
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R. S. Refugee



Joined: 29 Sep 2004
Location: Shangra La, ROK

PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 2:49 am    Post subject: Re: re Reply with quote

ghost wrote:

My contract will not be renewed where I presently work, because the Director thinks that I am 'too old.' Such is Korea.

Ghost in Korea


I'm sorry to hear of your frustrations and your misfortune regarding your contract not being renewed.

Many of your feelings about the difficulty of connecting with Korean society are shared by many and I've heard them countless times. I'm inclined to think that you're right -- that Korean culture, in general, has a great deal of trouble accommodating anyone from outside the culture. But Korea has been going through enormous change for the past 30 - 40 years and that may change for the better eventually.

Age discrimination and evaluations based on superficial factors are an all too real phenomenum.

That said, my friend who recently moved to Jeju-do to teach at public school told me he saw some kind of online photo album of the waygukkins teaching in public schools down there and there was a lot of older teachers there, gray hair and all. Might be a good place to work.

I am an older teacher too and have to deal with these issues though at the school where I am currently teaching, the Koreans are really quite lovely and seem happy to have me there. That's a public school.

Many private academies won't hire anyone that isn't young because they say that's what the ajummas want -- if you look like Tom Cruise you must be a great teacher. Duh.

Good luck.
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prettyinscarlet777



Joined: 29 May 2007
Location: masan

PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 3:04 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they aren't going to renew because of your age, and you have all those qualifications, I would say it's their loss and your gain. When a door closes, look for a window. There's other schools out there in this world that would love to have you. Wipe the dust off your feet and smile. You deserve it.
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Countrygirl



Joined: 19 Nov 2007
Location: in the classroom

PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:49 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think working at a public school would appeal more to you. Location might have something to do with it. In a more rural location or an area where there are few foreigners, Koeans are more willing to open up. Good luck. I applaud your effort to try to learn the language and more about the culture of the country you are living in.

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mrsquirrel



Joined: 13 Dec 2006

PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

When did you stop writing in the third person?
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spliff



Joined: 19 Jan 2004
Location: Khon Kaen, Thailand

PostPosted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 6:35 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have to agree...quite the omniscient point of view.... Laughing
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moosehead



Joined: 05 May 2007

PostPosted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 6:40 am    Post subject: Re: re Reply with quote

ghost wrote:
My contract will not be renewed where I presently work, because the Director thinks that I am 'too old.' Such is Korea.

Ghost in Korea



hey there ghost - what an interesting avatar you have -

i'd be willing to bet you are a guy - you know i just figured out how i've managed to not just survive but to pretty much thrive here - despite the fact i don't particularly care for this country.

let me qualify that - i'm more than middle aged - i'm past 50 - and when i was getting ready to come over here (49 then) was told no way i'd get a job here in asia because of my age

not only have i worked at a variety of teaching positions but i do have korean friends - with an open-ended invite to visit them anytime i want - they live outside a large city in central korea - and i always have a great time when i go - they are wonderful friends - our friendship will no doubt endure long after i finally do leave here

i've also managed to accomplish quite a lot of personal projects while here and continue to do so - and have traveled outside the country to places i'd always wanted to visit before - i didn't even have a pp before i came here - so that's pretty incredible in itself.

so what's the difference between you and me? you get all blue and glum because someone said you're too old for their tastes?

let me tell you right now - you're going to hear that a lot in the future - just about everywhere - the world just doesn't stay friendly towards older folks - and i think the reason i keep on truckin' so far and well is because i've managed to grow quite a thick skin, being female and all i have always been told in one way or the other there was something i couldn't do - men on the other hand, most everything is just handed to you; until age starts creeping in.

so start exercising (if you don't already) watch your diet, etc etc and get ready for middle age because you ain't seen nothin' yet! people see me and they generally think i'm 15-20 yrs younger than i am - which has it's pluses as well as its minuses; still, it's no fun people trying to push you down when you're standing just fine.

hang in there, stand up and remember you can do a lot worse than to not be welcome in K - hey - none of us foreigners really are - Wink
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