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fiveeagles
Joined: 19 May 2005
Location: Vancouver
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 Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 1:32 am Post subject: Why the Republicans shouldn't vote for Ron Paul! |
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWfIhFhelm8
The more I learn about this guy the more impressed I become.
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I have learned more about Ron Paul and he shouldn't be elected! I still believe he has a great message, but I don't believe he would be capable for such an office. Especially with such crazy people supporting him, who knows what he might be convinced to do.
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Gopher
Joined: 04 Jun 2005
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 2:03 am Post subject: |
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| I am a registered Republican and I have no intention of voting for him in the primaries -- assuming he remains in the primaries when my state holds them. |
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Tiger Beer
Joined: 07 Feb 2003
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 3:11 am Post subject: |
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| I'm huge on Ron Paul as well. I could rally behind this guy. There is a portion of Republicans that would be into this as well. He speaks of Republican history as being non-interventionist. I love it. I'm not a Republican, but I would seriously consider changing parties to get a guy like this in office. |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 4:00 am Post subject: |
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The crazy interventionists (and there is really no other word for people who believe in the failed concept of interventionism) have created ALL the world's international problems: totalitarian governments currently in existence, wars, conflicts, terrorism - can all be traced to the failed interventionist policies of major powers throughout history. Of course, interventionists are long on actions, but fail completely to take into account the reactions. It is beyond their mental capacity.
Ron Paul has recognized this and fought for non-interventionism for all of the 30 years that I've known him.
He is a great guy personally, and he will be a great president. |
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Kuros
Joined: 27 Apr 2004
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 5:07 am Post subject: |
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The crazy interventionists (and there is really no other word for people who believe in the failed concept of interventionism) have created ALL the world's international problems: totalitarian governments currently in existence, wars, conflicts, terrorism - can all be traced to the failed interventionist policies of major powers throughout history. Of course, interventionists are long on actions, but fail completely to take into account the reactions. It is beyond their mental capacity.
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I TOTALLY agree. I mean that FDR guy's policy of going to war in Europe...what right did he have? He had two wars at the same time! In two different places in the world!
Oh, and he even gave the Red Russians supplies while they were killing their own people!! |
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Tiger Beer
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Harpeau
Joined: 01 Feb 2003
Location: Coquitlam, BC
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 6:29 am Post subject: |
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Yup. I like Ron Paul. I hope he gets "put" into office.  |
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cbclark4
Joined: 20 Aug 2006
Location: Masan
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 6:36 am Post subject: |
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I like Ron but, Paul makes me sick.
cbc |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 6:56 am Post subject: |
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WWII is the typical interventionist red herring. Of course a country hat the right to self defense when it is attacked. That is self defense, it is not interventionism.
Everything the US did after WWII is interventionism. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 11:12 am Post subject: |
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The Soviet Union was out to destroy the US.
were it not for US interventionism no one here would be working in Korea |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 11:58 am Post subject: |
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US interventionism made the USSR stronger. It gave them an evil enemy to oppose. Every time the US intervened, then and still today, it left the world with no hero, no one to respect, no one to follow. It gave the world one more country to hate. It left a moral vacuum in the world.
Worse. The world had grown, prior to and shortly after WWII, to respect America and what it stood for. Interventionism not only ended that respect, it not only made enemies for the US (blowback in CIA bureacratise), it created a feeling of disgust and hatred for the US that exceeded that felt about other countries.
This feeling comes from the abandonment and betrayal of the moral principles that America was founded on. When the other weak, evil or useless countries of the world violate the principles of liberty, there is much less anger and blowback. This is because the people of the world expect no better from them. Who expects great things from Albania or Zimbabwe, or any country between. But, people in every country of the world expect America's lamp to shine the light of liberty around the world. They do not want American troops, bombs or intervention. The want America to lead by example. When America fails, the feelings of betrayal, abandonment, and disillusionment lead to anger and blowback of immense proportions.
The interventionists are all too arrogant and stupid to understand the concept that actions lead to reactions. They have no concept at all of the scientific principles of liberty. They have no respect for the peoples of the world. And, if they are not removed from power, they will destroy the United States of America completely and totally.
What the world needs is a strong, free, America that leads by example and defends itself, but does not interfere in the affairs and wars of other nations. The people of the world will celebrate, respect, follow and join such a nation.
If the US had maintained its principles, the US could have continued to grow. More and more peoples would have joined to make a bigger, and more prosperous "free zone" on the Earth.
The US must:
- Return to a noninterventionist foreign policy
- Close its bases around the world and bring the troops home
- Repeal all taxes on Income and abolish the IRS
- Repeal Social Security (FDR's evil plan has according to economic analysis, destroyed a minimum of 200 million jobs around the world through the destruction of savings
- Repeal all taxes on property
- Repeal entitlement programs
- End the war on drugs and repeal victimless crime laws
- Restore the constitution
Ron Paul is the only announced candidate in the major parties worth supporting for President. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 12:23 pm Post subject: |
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| US interventionism made the USSR stronger. It gave them an evil enemy to oppose. Every time the US intervened, then and still today, it left the world with no hero, no one to respect, no one to follow. It gave the world one more country to hate. It left a moral vacuum in the world. |
I dunno if Russia had conquered a lot of nations and surrounded the US it seems they would have been a lot better off and the US would have been alot weaker.
Europe would have a fallen and so would have Korea.
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Worse. The world had grown, prior to and shortly after WWII, to respect America and what it stood for. Interventionism not only ended that respect, it not only made enemies for the US (blowback in CIA bureacratise), it created a feeling of disgust and hatred for the US that exceeded that felt about other countries. |
Most of the world hates the top dg.
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This feeling comes from the abandonment and betrayal of the moral principles that America was founded on. When the other weak, evil or useless countries of the world violate the principles of liberty, there is much less anger and blowback. This is because the people of the world expect no better from them. Who expects great things from Albania or Zimbabwe, or any country between. But, people in every country of the world expect America's lamp to shine the light of liberty around the world. They do not want American troops, bombs or intervention. The want America to lead by example. When America fails, the feelings of betrayal, abandonment, and disillusionment lead to anger and blowback of immense proportions. |
I am sure Kuwait and the Kurds are glad the US saved them. Just about all of the enemies of the US don't follow the principles of liberty.
The world hates the top dog and they hate and resent the capabilities of the US. If it were not A then it would be B. See how many Koreans lost it in the 2002 Olympics.
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The interventionists are all too arrogant and stupid to understand the concept that actions lead to reactions. They have no concept at all of the scientific principles of liberty. They have no respect for the peoples of the world. And, if they are not removed from power, they will destroy the United States of America completely and totally. |
Give some examples. Most of the enemies of the US don't respect liberty and most of the time there is a problem cause they are doing bad things.
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What the world needs is a strong, free, America that leads by example and defends itself, but does not interfere in the affairs and wars of other nations. The people of the world will celebrate, respect, follow and join such a nation.
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There is no proof for that.
Or they will find something else to go after the US with. See how many foreigners complain about the Patriot act, the US rich and poor gap, that the US is too religious or not religious enough.
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If the US had maintained its principles, the US could have continued to grow. More and more peoples would have joined to make a bigger, and more prosperous "free zone" on the Earth. |
the US economy is growing.
As for the rest it is simply an opinion. If you have anything else I would be willing to see it
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The US must:
- Return to a noninterventionist foreign policy |
even regimes are making war against the US.
How far ought that go?
Ought the US not trade with nations that Al Qaeda doesn't like?
Ought the US not vote at the UN the way the US sees fit cause it will make a lot of creepy regimes and groups angry?
How about if regimes are selling drugs and counterfeiting US money?
What exactly is non interventionism?
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- Close its bases around the world and bring the troops home |
And perhaps let Al Qaeda build up a base to hit the US again.
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- Repeal all taxes on Income and abolish the IRS
- Repeal Social Security (FDR's evil plan has according to economic analysis, destroyed a minimum of 200 million jobs around the world through the destruction of savings
- Repeal all taxes on property
- Repeal entitlement programs
- End the war on drugs and repeal victimless crime laws
- Restore the constitution |
and they blame Bush for tax cuts.
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Ron Paul is the only announced candidate in the major parties worth supporting for President. |
He hasn't made a good case yet. I'll bet you that he gets less than 5% in the Republican primary. |
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canuck007
Joined: 24 Aug 2006
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 12:31 pm Post subject: |
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| yes i am a big supporter of Dr. Paul's. I have already sent money to his campaign (even though im canadian). He is the ONLY candidate who can save the US (the world?) from the impending doom that is almost upon us. The rest of the candidates in the field (DEM/REP) are bought and paid for by corporate interests. The scariest candidate is probably Rudy Guilliani (aka the penguin) or maybe Hitlery Clinton. I encourage all of my american brothers/sisters to vote for Ron. If either of the above get in, the world is in serious trouble. |
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ontheway
Joined: 24 Aug 2005
Location: Somewhere under the rainbow...
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canuck007,
I'm not sure, but I think campaign contributions from foreign nationals might be illegal. |
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Joo Rip Gwa Rhhee
Joined: 25 May 2003
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| Posted: Fri May 18, 2007 1:34 pm Post subject: |
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| canuck007 wrote: |
| yes i am a big supporter of Dr. Paul's. I have already sent money to his campaign (even though im canadian). He is the ONLY candidate who can save the US (the world?) from the impending doom that is almost upon us. The rest of the candidates in the field (DEM/REP) are bought and paid for by corporate interests. The scariest candidate is probably Rudy Guilliani (aka the penguin) or maybe Hitlery Clinton. I encourage all of my american brothers/sisters to vote for Ron. If either of the above get in, the world is in serious trouble. |
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| I sometimes treat this board as a convenient window to view the extreme radical left and the libertarians' worldviews. This thread has not disappointed me in this regard. |
Yep. |
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