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nobbyken
Joined: 07 Jun 2006
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 Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 8:13 pm Post subject: Uni or College job: Is it common to pay a finders fee? |
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| Is it possible that a recruiter can ask for a fee of 500K for finding such a position? |
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Bibbitybop
Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:17 pm Post subject: |
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| Recruiters get paid by the school and a teacher should NEVER pay a fee to the recruiter. If one ever asks for one, you know you are dealing with a sleazy, dishonest person. |
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nobbyken
Joined: 07 Jun 2006
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| Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:55 pm Post subject: |
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Thanks Bibbitybop,
The recruiter also said that since Uni and college jobs are more in demand, they don't have to pay to get applicants. Hagwons and schools have to pay. This is why the recruiter stated to me the applicant should pay.
The search works OK today too.
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=24294&highlight=finder
2004 info, but still seems relevant. |
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Bibbitybop
Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Wed Jan 02, 2008 9:59 pm Post subject: |
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| nobbyken wrote: |
Thanks Bibbitybop,
The recruiter also said that since Uni and college jobs are more in demand, they don't have to pay to get applicants. Hagwons and schools have to pay. This is why the recruiter stated to me the applicant should pay.
The search works OK today too.
http://forums.eslcafe.com/korea/viewtopic.php?t=24294&highlight=finder
2004 info, but still seems relevant. |
Unis pay recruiters, though a lot of uni jobs don't need recruiters because current foreign teachers recommend people for them.
The recruiter just wants more money.
Someone else mentioned this kind of thing last week and said the recruiter wouldn't reveal the school's name. I personally want to know where I'll work and who I'll work for before signing a contract. |
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basplar
Joined: 14 Jan 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:26 pm Post subject: |
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I had a similar thing happen to me, except the lady wants a 30% finders fee. I refused and she finally told me that the Univ. was interested in me and the contract she sent me stated that I have to give her 30% of my annual salary with the first months paycheck at the university at the end of the first month. She sent me that when she told me that the uni. is interested in hiring me(which means her getting paid is contingent upon me getting the job). Oh, and I won't be charged for an interview. I still don't know if she's double dipping or not, but the terms of the contract(if I get the job) are pretty sweet.
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Bibbitybop
Joined: 22 Feb 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:31 pm Post subject: |
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| basplar wrote: |
| I had the almost the same thing happen to me, except the lady wants a 30% finders fee. I refused and she finally told me that the Univ. was interested in me and the contract she sent me stated that I have to give her 30% of my annual salary with the first months paycheck at the university at the end of the first month. She sent me that when she told me that the uni. is interested in hiring me(which means her getting paid is contingent upon me getting the job). Oh, and I won't be charged for an interview. I still don't know if she's double dipping or not, but the terms of the contract(if I get the job) are pretty sweet. |
I don't have a uni job and have never personally been in your situation, but from everything I've ever read, the woman is scamming you by charging you a finders fee. Even if she is a legit recruiter with a legit job, the uni might not know about her finder's fee and could get angry because the employer pays the recruiters, not the employer AND the employee.
You could try to go through the application process and do a couple of things to avoid the situation:
1. Get the name of the school and talk to them directly. Simply ask if they know about the finder's fee.
2. Get the job and sign the contract with the school, making sure you don't sign anything about paying the recruiter. If you get the job, the recruiter may hassle you for the money, but you can simply say "I didn't agree to that in writing." This is dishonest, but you are simply playing the crooked recruiter's game.
I hope someone with more direct experience can give you better advice. |
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tob55
Joined: 29 Apr 2007
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| Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:35 pm Post subject: Upping the rate |
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| With a larger number of vacancies due to the lower numbers of incoming teachers, the recruiters are figuring out ways to up their percentage of the take by claiming they are entitled to finder fees. Nothing more or less than trying to keep up with their high level of living at the expense of the teachers looking for such positions. 99% of the time there should be no need for a recruiter to request or demand a finders fee. They make enough money already for what they do or do not do. |
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Otus
Joined: 09 Feb 2006
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| Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 5:49 pm Post subject: |
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Unis pay recruiters, though a lot of uni jobs don't need recruiters because current foreign teachers recommend people for them.
The recruiter just wants more money. |
Most universities do not pay recruiters (very general policy). I can't say all universities because there may be some unusual case I don't know about. That is why the recruiter turns around and sometimes tries to get a fee from the successful applicant.
That is also why the recruiter doesn't seek a fee from a successful institute candidate - because the institute will pay.
It's a disgusting and desperate act when recruiters try to charge applicants for getting them uni positions and an absolutely laughable practice with any professional consultancy company.
Then again, maybe some recruiters are disgusting and desperate .. |
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