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Ilsanman
Joined: 15 Aug 2003
Location: Bucheon, Korea
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You can say that too, or you can say as I did. It works for me, as I also don't eat seafood.
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1. Almost. It's 빼고
2. 해물 안먹습니다
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| hugekebab wrote: |
Thanks for this thread; great idea!
Should be made a sticky.
!. How do you say: 'without' e.g. Bibimbap without gim
2. Whats the simplest way to say in Korean : 'I don't eat any kind of seafood'/ or / 'Do you have anything without any type of seafood?'
3. Does this bus go to .................?
Thanks very much for this; im taking korean lessons soon, but this shit is survival. |
1. Without is "bay go". I'm not sure of the hangeul, maybe 배고? Noun first, then bay go. Bibimbap gim baygo jusaeyo.
2. You could say "eum sheek haemul baygo isseoyo"--"Is there food (eum sheek) without (baygo) seafood (haemul)?" There is probably a better way to say that though but they should understand you.
3. The location's name (ex. Itaewon), plus "eh" plus "ga yo".
"Itaewon-eh gayo?"
Goes to Itaewon?
This works if you're asking the bus driver. If you ask somebody on the street, I'm not sure. Maybe "ee bawsuh (this bus) Itaewon-eh gayo?" |
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not quite
to say is there any food without seafood you would say
해물 없는 음식 있어요? (seafood without food is there?) what you were saying is i don't eat seafood. (what you said is easier tho)
also you can drop the eh in Itaewon-eh gayo? a little to textbook, it is correct tho |
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jkelly80
Joined: 13 Jun 2007
Location: you boys like mexico?
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| Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 4:01 pm Post subject: |
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| When you say "없는", is that making an adjective out of 없다? I've never seen that before. |
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blackjack
Joined: 04 Jan 2006
Location: anyang
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| Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008 5:40 pm Post subject: |
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| When you say "없는", is that making an adjective out of 없다? I've never seen that before. |
없다 not having
없는 without
(I don't actually know this stuff but my gf is reading over my shoulder) |
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billybrobby
Joined: 09 Dec 2004
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| Posted: Mon Jun 23, 2008 12:30 am Post subject: |
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| jkelly80 wrote: |
| When you say "없는", is that making an adjective out of 없다? I've never seen that before. |
that's exactly what you're doing |
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toiletgod2000
Joined: 18 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 5:46 am Post subject: |
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| I'm not ripping on people using the board for language help, but posting a long list and asking for translation seems a little ridiculous to me. I recommend the naver dictionary. It even has usage notes (in English) for lots of words. http://dic.naver.com/?frm=nt |
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zpeanut
Joined: 12 Mar 2008
Location: Pohang, Korea
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 6:59 am Post subject: |
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| jkelly80 wrote: |
| hugekebab wrote: |
Thanks for this thread; great idea!
Should be made a sticky.
!. How do you say: 'without' e.g. Bibimbap without gim
2. Whats the simplest way to say in Korean : 'I don't eat any kind of seafood'/ or / 'Do you have anything without any type of seafood?'
3. Does this bus go to .................?
Thanks very much for this; im taking korean lessons soon, but this shit is survival. |
1. Without is "bay go". I'm not sure of the hangeul, maybe 배고? Noun first, then bay go. Bibimbap gim baygo jusaeyo.
2. You could say "eum sheek haemul baygo isseoyo"--"Is there food (eum sheek) without (baygo) seafood (haemul)?" There is probably a better way to say that though but they should understand you.
3. The location's name (ex. Itaewon), plus "eh" plus "ga yo".
"Itaewon-eh gayo?"
Goes to Itaewon?
This works if you're asking the bus driver. If you ask somebody on the street, I'm not sure. Maybe "ee bawsuh (this bus) Itaewon-eh gayo?" |
I felt I must explain the use of the word 'go' - 고
The sentence on taking out the Kim is 100% correct. The word 'go' means 'and'. Therefore, the sentence is translated as, 'please take out the kim and give the bimbimbab to me please'.
Therefore, in the second sentence about foods without seafood, you would not use the word 'go' as it would not make sense.
As others have suggested, either say:
1. haemool om-nen eumsik issoyo? OR
2.*haemool an duelro-gan eumsik issoyo? = is there any food where seafood isn't added?
* This one is what koreans would say but they should understand the first. |
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amilin90
Joined: 08 May 2008
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 7:27 am Post subject: |
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One that I left off the list that should be there is the adjective "Crazy" ....can anyone help ?
Also...these are extremely important....could you also add a note on usuage ?
can ( permission) :
I assume you're asking for permission here. ~도 돼(되요)?
Can I eat this? 이거 먹어도 돼(되요)?
Can I do this? 이거 해도 돼(되요)?
Or if you're talking about granting permission.. ~도 돼(되요).
Yes, you can eat it. 네/응, 먹어도 돼(되요).
Yes, you may do it. 네/응, 해도 돼(되요).
can (ability) :
~수 있다. Verb goes in front of it.
읽을 수 있다, 먹을 수 있다, 할 수 있다. Note the space between 수 and 있다. Not very important, but it's basics.
As for why the 을 comes in, I'm sorry. Don't know why.. Should've paid more attention in grammar class last year..
to have :
to be :
Er, these two I can't think of any way to explain. I could just list examples, I suppose.. ahh..
For beginners a brief note on how to manipulate verbs to make the simple past and future tense would also be great.
Ah, I ran so many methods of explaining this in my head, Let's see if this one works..
It's important to know a verb's 어근(語根) or roots. The root never changes, the bit behind it does.
Examples: (Basic Verb/Root)
먹다(먹) eat
가다(가) go
하다(하) do
사다(사) buy
자다(자) sleep
보다(보) see/watch
일어나다(일어나) wake up
쓰다(쓰) write
주다(주) give
마시다(마시) drink
etc etc.
The roots don't change, but a 받침(the consonant that comes at the bottom of a word) might get added.
Now, for past tense..
if the word ends with 하, add -였. (하+였 = 했, a shortened form)
if not, check the vowel of the last letter of the root word.
If it is a ㅏ or a ㅗ, add 았,
if it's a ㅓ or a ㅜ, add 었.
then end with a 다. (For basic speech level. add appropriate honourifics, etc if needed)
먹다(먹) : 먹+었+다 = 먹었다
가다(가) : 가+았+다 = 갔다 (the ㅇ is replaceable with the consonant before it, if the vowels are the same)
하다(하) : 하+였+다 = 했다
사다(사) : 사+았+다 = 샀다 (see 가다)
자다(자) : 자+았+다 = 잤다
보다(보) : 보+았+다 = 보았다 = 봤다
일어나다(일어나) 일어나+았+다 = 일어났다
쓰다(쓰) : 쓰+었+다 = 썼다
주다(주) : 주+었+다 = 주었다 = 줬다
마시다(마시) 마시+었+다= 마시었다 = 마셨다 (시+어=셔)
Ah..
Future tense..
You take the verb root then.. *thinks*
add the 어미(語尾) (Kinda like a suffix) -겠-.
or if you're planning on doing something, -ㄹ 것이. is good too.
then add -다. (or apply honourifcs if needed, again)
먹다(먹) : 먹겠다. 먹을 것이다(먹을거다) will eat
가다(가) : 가겠다. 갈 것이다(갈거다) will go
하다(하) : 하겠다. 할 것이다(할거다) will do
사다(사) : 사겠다. 살 것이다(살거다) will buy
자다(자) : 자겠다. 잘 것이다(잘거다) will sleep
보다(보) : 보겠다. 볼 것이다(볼거다) will see/watch
일어나다(일어나) : 일어나겠다. 일어날 것이다(일어날거다) will wake up
쓰다(쓰) : 쓰겠다. 쓸 것이다(쓸거다) will write
주다(주) : 주겠다. 줄 것이다(줄거다) will give
* 줄다= lessen in number or length. 줄 것이다 can mean 'it will shorten/lessen' too.
마시다(마시) : 마시겠다. 마실 것이다(마실거다) will drink
etc etc.
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chossmonkey
Joined: 08 Jun 2008
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 8:02 am Post subject: |
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This really should be made a sticky. It has a lot of potential. I'm not convinced of the value of just defining words though. Everyone trying to learn the language should already have a dictionary. The exceptions though would be slang. If anyone is fluent enough to know a lot of slang that could be fun. I've also had a lot of trouble getting bad words out of people. My teacher tells me that I don't need to learn them, but I would like to know when people are using them.
So far the only even remotely bad word I've learned is pa bo (sorry I can't type in Hangul on this computer) I think a list of such words and approximate meanings would be helpful.
Also I'd like to hear what common mistakes people have made.
I tried to tell a lady mashiseoyo (english approx) because she made a great meal, but I said moshiseoyo and basically said something like good looking or handsome instead. She looked worried for a little while, but eventually figured out what I meant and laughed.  |
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toiletgod2000
Joined: 18 Jun 2008
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| Posted: Fri Jul 18, 2008 9:00 am Post subject: |
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I was practicing a few things I had learned at work. I gave the head teacher in my department some coffee or a cookie or something. He said, "감사합니다" and I tried to say, "천마네요."(Don't mention it.) But he heard "좆 만나요." Which could mean I met your small ding-a-ling. Most of my coworkers thought this was hilarious. I was embarrassed and decided it wasn't smart to practice Korean at work too much.
Edit: censor doesn't like scientific names for sex organs |
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zpeanut
Joined: 12 Mar 2008
Location: Pohang, Korea
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| Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 7:08 am Post subject: |
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| toiletgod2000 wrote: |
I was practicing a few things I had learned at work. I gave the head teacher in my department some coffee or a cookie or something. He said, "감사합니다" and I tried to say, "천마네요."(Don't mention it.) But he heard "좆 만나요." Which could mean I met your small ding-a-ling. Most of my coworkers thought this was hilarious. I was embarrassed and decided it wasn't smart to practice Korean at work too much.
Edit: censor doesn't like scientific names for sex organs |
lol.. ^^ |
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zpeanut
Joined: 12 Mar 2008
Location: Pohang, Korea
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| Posted: Sat Jul 19, 2008 7:19 am Post subject: |
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| bovinerebel wrote: |
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Future tense..
You take the verb root then.. *thinks*
add the 어미(語尾) (Kinda like a suffix) -겠-.
or if you're planning on doing something, -ㄹ 것이. is good too.
then add -다. (or apply honourifcs if needed, again)
먹다(먹) : 먹겠다. 먹을 것이다(먹을거다) will eat
가다(가) : 가겠다. 갈 것이다(갈거다) will go
하다(하) : 하겠다. 할 것이다(할거다) will do
사다(사) : 사겠다. 살 것이다(살거다) will buy
자다(자) : 자겠다. 잘 것이다(잘거다) will sleep
보다(보) : 보겠다. 볼 것이다(볼거다) will see/watch
일어나다(일어나) : 일어나겠다. 일어날 것이다(일어날거다) will wake up
쓰다(쓰) : 쓰겠다. 쓸 것이다(쓸거다) will write
주다(주) : 주겠다. 줄 것이다(줄거다) will give
* 줄다= lessen in number or length. 줄 것이다 can mean 'it will shorten/lessen' too.
마시다(마시) : 마시겠다. 마실 것이다(마실거다) will drink
etc etc.
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This is a great list of verbs to learn for beginners.. but i think it should be noted that using the 다 form, as in sticking it on the end, is really only written form.
When speaking the most simple and easy to remember for beginners is the formal 'yo' 요 form.
eg, using the verb 'to go'; 가다 (verb stem)
Casual: "가"
Informal polite: "가요"
formal polite: "갑니다"
* both informal and formal polite forms also have honorific forms. we won't go there......
Using formal forms can be quite confusing. Therefore i recommend learning the basic verb changes for the informal polite 'yo' form and stick with that all the time. Can't go wrong with 'yo'!
theres a whole lot to explain on the use of verbs, have a squiz here:
http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Korean/Verbs#Verb_stems
it explains some of the basics quite well. |
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i4NI
Joined: 17 May 2008
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 8:45 pm Post subject: |
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| I know we have some people who have some decent knowledge about Korean or at least books on Korean. Anyone interested in helping make a Korean language wiki? I've setup the wiki itself, but haven't done any changes to it and still putting a lot of thought into how exactly it should be done and it's restrictions. I think it would be highly useful. |
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kiwiduncan
Joined: 18 Jun 2007
Location: New Zealand
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| Posted: Tue Aug 12, 2008 9:08 pm Post subject: |
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| I agree that this thread would make a great sticky. |
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ABC KID
Joined: 14 Sep 2007
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| Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 1:29 am Post subject: |
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A lot of us are enjoying the Olympics at the moment so I thought I would post some relevant vocabulary. I hope it is interesting or helpful for some of you...
올림픽 Olympics
중국 China
베이징 Beijing
금 메달 Gold medal
은 메달 Silver medal
동 메달 Bronze medal
개막식 Opening ceremony
폐막식 Closing ceremony
양궁 Archery
육상 Athletics
배드민턴 Badminton
농구 Basketball
야구 Baseball
비치발리볼 Beach Volleyball
복싱 Boxing
카누 Canoeing
사이클링 Cycling
다이빙 Diving
마술 Equestrian
펜싱 Fencing
축구 Football
체조 Gymnastics
핸드볼 Handball
하키 Hockey
유도 Judo
조정 Rowing
사격 Shooting
소프트볼 Softball
수용 Swimming
탁구 Table Tennis
태권도 Taekwondo
테니스 Tennis
트라이슬론 Triathlon
배구 Volleyball
역도 Weightlifting
레슬링 Wrestling |
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zappadelta
Joined: 31 Aug 2004
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| Posted: Tue Aug 19, 2008 1:47 am Post subject: |
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| This is a great list of verbs to learn for beginners.. but i think it should be noted that using the 다 form, as in sticking it on the end, is really only written form. |
It's usually only the written, or infinitive form. But, it's also used often in statements.
Some examples are:
아 좋겠다!
아 맛이겠다!
여기 있다!
아 찾았다!
외국사람 이다!
But, you are right, the most usable form to learn is the polite present, with the ending of __yo. |
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