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Kwangjuchicken
Joined: 01 Sep 2003
Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.
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 Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:41 am Post subject: It is not our job |
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Why should we have to go through all of this bs to
confirm our degress when: (a) it is not our job, it is immigration's job, and (b) what could cost us 1000's of dollars in airfare, hotels and all the legal stuff when immmigration can do it in seconds for almost nothing, or nothing?
A few years ago we had to give to immigration for the office of the registrar for the schools from where we graduated: (a) telephone number, (b) fax number, (c) e-mail address, and (d) surface mail address.
It is not our job to confirm the degrees, it is immigration's job. And with all of the 1000's of Koreans who graduate with a degree in English every year in Korea, you think they could hire a few people who only need to be able to say (if by phone) or write (if by e-mail, surface mail, or fax): "Did XXXXX receive XXXX degre from you in (date?). And all they need to be able to understand (if by phone is yes/ no) or be able to read if by email surafce mail or fax is "yes/no".
Immigration do your job, and we will do our job, "TEACH". I have BA MA and Phd, and I will be damned if I am going to spend all summer and 1000's of dollars to do what you can do in minutes for free. So, I am leaving. 9 years is enough.  |
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Boodleheimer
Joined: 10 Mar 2006
Location: working undercover for the Man
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:48 am Post subject: |
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because they say so, silly!
how long until The Dude/Homer comes in saying that the OP is fundamentally wrong? |
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mistermasan
Joined: 20 Sep 2007
Location: 10+ yrs on Dave's ESL cafe
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 3:51 am Post subject: |
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| bingo. tell them that such work is outside the parameters of your visa and thus illegal. if they insist, get a lawyer and sue them for making you work illegally. |
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Bryan
Joined: 29 Oct 2007
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It's not immigration's job either. The rules are a violation of individual rights and should be eliminated completely. They are a barrier to free trade.
All they do is prevent Koreans from having the english instruction that they demand through the market. By the government putting barriers to foreign labour entry, Koreans are less educated than they would like to be. In effect, the government policy is a pro-ignorance one by limiting educators. |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:00 am Post subject: Re: It is not our job |
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| Kwangjuchicken wrote: |
| ... I will be damned if I am going to spend all summer and 1000's of dollars ... |
I dont understand. What are you being asked to do exactly? |
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mistermasan
Joined: 20 Sep 2007
Location: 10+ yrs on Dave's ESL cafe
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:01 am Post subject: |
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| individual rights. how 20th century-ish. what rights do foreigners have here? to assemble? pursuit of happiness? speech? |
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Biblethumper
Joined: 15 Dec 2007
Location: Busan, Korea
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:03 am Post subject: |
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| Bryan wrote: |
It's not immigration's job either. The rules are a violation of individual rights and should be eliminated completely. They are a barrier to free trade.
All they do is prevent Koreans from having the english instruction that they demand through the market. By the government putting barriers to foreign labour entry, Koreans are less educated than they would like to be. In effect, the government policy is a pro-ignorance one by limiting educators. |
Hear, hear. Furthermore, the government bureaucracy's hostility to private English schools is just another example of Korea's increasing reluctance to fully participate in and benefit from the global maketplace. And I cannot see the new president makign any difference since his conservatism amounts only to support of creaking conglomerates and nostalgic populism. |
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Kwangjuchicken
Joined: 01 Sep 2003
Location: I was abducted by aliens on my way to Korea and forced to be an EFL teacher on this crazy planet.
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:06 am Post subject: Re: It is not our job |
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| schwa wrote: |
| Kwangjuchicken wrote: |
| ... I will be damned if I am going to spend all summer and 1000's of dollars ... |
I dont understand. What are you being asked to do exactly? |
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You been in a coma the past 2 months?  I would have to get a round trip ticket Korea USA, and live in Hotels (no familly) while going to lawyers and notraies, and this apissed stuff etc. That's what. And for 3 degress, each from a different school.   |
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chris_J2
Joined: 17 Apr 2006
Location: From Brisbane, Au.
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:21 am Post subject: |
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Why should we have to go through all of this bs to
confirm our degress |
Succintly? C.P.Neil. I hate him! |
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Dome Vans
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 4:48 am Post subject: |
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| OP, welcome to being a minority. Stinks, yeh? There's plenty of minorities in your own country, more skilled than you, who can't get a job anywhere near their skill level. Put your dummy back in and put yourself in their position. Quit moaning. |
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schwa
Joined: 18 Jan 2003
Location: Yap
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 5:03 am Post subject: Re: It is not our job |
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| Kwangjuchicken wrote: |
| schwa wrote: |
| Kwangjuchicken wrote: |
| ... I will be damned if I am going to spend all summer and 1000's of dollars ... |
I dont understand. What are you being asked to do exactly? |
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You been in a coma the past 2 months? I would have to get a round trip ticket Korea USA, and live in Hotels (no familly) while going to lawyers and notraies, and this apissed stuff etc. That's what. And for 3 degress, each from a different school. |
I've been following developments closely & I have yet to see any indication that any of the new regulations will require me to return to my home country to continue at my job. |
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Young FRANKenstein
Joined: 02 Oct 2006
Location: Castle Frankenstein (that's FRONKensteen)
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 6:17 am Post subject: Re: It is not our job |
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| schwa wrote: |
I've been following developments closely & I have yet to see any indication that any of the new regulations will require me to return to my home country to continue at my job. |
It all depends on exactly which country you're talking about, though. |
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Hanson
Joined: 20 Oct 2004
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 6:45 am Post subject: Re: It is not our job |
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| Kwangjuchicken wrote: |
| schwa wrote: |
| Kwangjuchicken wrote: |
| ... I will be damned if I am going to spend all summer and 1000's of dollars ... |
I dont understand. What are you being asked to do exactly? |
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You been in a coma the past 2 months? I would have to get a round trip ticket Korea USA, and live in Hotels (no familly) while going to lawyers and notraies, and this apissed stuff etc. That's what. And for 3 degress, each from a different school. |
On the positive side, you only need one degree to teach. |
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Zaria32
Joined: 04 Dec 2007
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| schwa...the telling word in your response was "continue." Not all of us are employed by a school for which we wish to continue to work. And if she change schools, trip-e hom-e. |
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esetters21
Joined: 30 Apr 2006
Location: Seoul
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| Posted: Mon Dec 31, 2007 10:18 pm Post subject: Re: It is not our job |
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| schwa wrote: |
| Kwangjuchicken wrote: |
| schwa wrote: |
| Kwangjuchicken wrote: |
| ... I will be damned if I am going to spend all summer and 1000's of dollars ... |
I dont understand. What are you being asked to do exactly? |
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
You been in a coma the past 2 months? I would have to get a round trip ticket Korea USA, and live in Hotels (no familly) while going to lawyers and notraies, and this apissed stuff etc. That's what. And for 3 degress, each from a different school. |
I've been following developments closely & I have yet to see any indication that any of the new regulations will require me to return to my home country to continue at my job. |
> Criminal Background Report
a) Submission of Criminal Background Report
- Those E2 teaching visa holders, who are already in Korea, need to submit their criminal background report when applying for the extension of their residence in Korea.
- Those who are newly applying for E2 teaching visa need to submit their criminal background report to the Immigration Office in Korea.
b) Method of Submitting criminal background report.
- By contacting the federal government or state government agency or the respective embassy of the E2 visa holders(or applicants).
- By submitting Apostille confirmed documents
- If one is from those countries which did not join the Apostille Agreement, he may have his documents certified by the Korean Embassy in his country.
<2>Health Certificate
a) Submission of Health Certificate
- Those E2 teaching visa holders, who are already in Korea, need to submit their health certificate when applying for the extension of their residence in Korea.
- Those who are newly applying for E2 teaching visa need to submit their health certificate when applying for alien registration to the Immigration Office in Korea.
b) Method of Submitting Health Certificate
- By going to National or privately-run hospitals and/or public health centers.
- The following items must be included in the health certificate
- TBPE diagnosis or cannabinoid test about drug use
- HIV test
This is info from the Korean immigration site regarding those either looking to extend or newly coming here. I don't know about your country, but I have spoken to the embassy from mine, and they can do nothing for you to assist in getting the criminal check from here. |
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