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Sick family clause - how soon can I teach again

 
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dulouz



Joined: 04 Feb 2003
Location: Uranus

PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 6:44 pm    Post subject: Sick family clause - how soon can I teach again Reply with quote

The seriousness of my mothers ongoing illness is directly proportional to the snottiness of my hogwan director. My mother is becoming very ill.

Midnight runs and the like require that you not re enter/work in the country until that visa expires which means the balance of the time on your contract.

How does this work with the serious illness clause?
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Zyzyfer



Joined: 29 Jan 2003
Location: who, what, where, when, why, how?

PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 7:55 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

My contract stated that I had a 6-day paid holiday to run home, attend whatever funeral, cry and stuff, then get over it and come back to work. It said nothing about illnesses in the family.

If your mother is sick, and needs your help, and you want to help her, you really shouldn't get bothered by the consequences of midnight runs. You'll probably be caring for her for a while, which will nullify any desire to run back here quickly.
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Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 8:00 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Food for thought-
Abusing this clause makes it that much more difficult for those who are really experiencing a death/serious illness in the family. I can think of few things more terrible than having to return home for a funeral only to have your boss not believe you because some lazy assholes had previously misused such clauses to make quick and easy exits.

I once thought of doing something similar to get out of a bad contract, and had recommended this method to others in bad situations in the past, but that was before a friend's father suddenly died while she was teaching in Korea. There are worse things than being in a crappy contract- please don't don't use this clause just to take the easy way out. Stand up for yourself and give notice.


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just because



Joined: 01 Aug 2003
Location: Changwon - 4964

PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 8:01 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ditto the above....
Family comes before money. I'm not saying base yourself back over there permantly, but give her some of your time. Human contact is a wonderful healer.
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gajackson1



Joined: 27 Jan 2003
Location: Casa Chil, Sungai Besar, Sultanate of Brunei

PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 8:02 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry to hear about that -

Contracts seem to vary a good bit; you may want to check the fine print. Most have death/illnes clauses regarding immediate family members; just take a look at yours & see what it says.

Remember that all Koreans have a VERY strong sense of familial obligation, esp. where their moms are concerned. You can always play up on that one.

Best of luck to you both, & keep us informed.

GAJ
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Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Mon Oct 13, 2003 9:16 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hang on a second:

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The seriousness of my mothers ongoing illness is directly proportional to the snottiness of my hogwan director. My mother is becoming very ill.


When I first read this I took this to mean that your mother was not actually sick (i.e. mom's only 'sick' when I'm tired of my director). Is this the case? Is your mom sick enough that you feel you should be at home, or not?
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dulouz



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Location: Uranus

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 7:21 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

My mom is sick, she really did have a stroke. Can't read, cannot write an address down if you tell her one over a phone. My dad can take care of her but not for long. This is border line but you'd ask, with no significant change, why leave now? Well, because I feel like it. Thats why.
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Kyrei



Joined: 22 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 1:34 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

dulouz wrote:
My mom is sick, she really did have a stroke. Can't read, cannot write an address down if you tell her one over a phone. My dad can take care of her but not for long. This is border line but you'd ask, with no significant change, why leave now? Well, because I feel like it. Thats why.


If it is like that then say "So long and thanks for all the fish" - go home and help take care of your mother. It is a nasty situation, but you will hate yourself for not doing it. As far as a career, Korea is not worth giving up that kind of family care. I'm really sorry to hear about your mother - go to her and help take care of her.

Kyrei
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Gord



Joined: 25 Feb 2003

PostPosted: Thu Oct 16, 2003 3:04 pm    Post subject: Re: Sick family clause - how soon can I teach again Reply with quote

dulouz wrote:
The seriousness of my mothers ongoing illness is directly proportional to the snottiness of my hogwan director. My mother is becoming very ill.

Midnight runs and the like require that you not re enter/work in the country until that visa expires which means the balance of the time on your contract.

How does this work with the serious illness clause?

If you depart on good terms (such as giving notice, repaying the airfare, ensuring all your bills are paid), you can generally get a letter of release and get a new work visa without issue upon your return.

If you just disappear, would you honestly expect Immigration to believe claims you had a family illness? "Sure you had a sick mother, now get back on the plane."
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mack the knife



Joined: 16 Jan 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 5:56 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Listen to His Gordness, unless you have no intentions of coming back.

Damn shame about your mother. If I were you, I'd not be anywhere else other than by her side until she recovers.
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Bulsajo



Joined: 16 Jan 2003

PostPosted: Fri Oct 17, 2003 10:21 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the clarification, and sorry to hear about your mother.
Ditto on Mack:
Do what you think is best, but it sounds like your mom could really use a visit from you regardless of how your director feels.
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