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thepeel
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 Posted: Thu Jan 03, 2008 10:11 pm Post subject: Don't criticise Islam, says UN |
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It didn�t attract much notice, but the General Assembly of the United Nations ended the year by passing a disgusting resolution protecting Islam from criticism of its human rights violations.
Lots of non-Muslims voted for it � a sign that more and more corrupt Third World governments are identifying with the ideology of Islam, even if they don't accept its doctrines.
The resolution goes under the innocuous title "Combating defamation of religions" � but the text singles out "Islam and Muslims in particular". It expresses "deep concern that Islam is frequently and wrongly associated with human rights violations and terrorism".
Wrongly associated? As of today, terrorists have carried out 10,277 separate attacks since September 11, 2001. They all belong to the same religion, and it ain�t Methodism.
The resolution (which of course makes no mention of the vicious persecution of Christians) was pushed through by the 57-nation Organisation of the Islamic Conference (OIC), which has been agitating for it for years. Naturally every Muslim country was among the 108 supporters, but it�s interesting to note how other countries lined up.
Cuba, China, North Korea and Zimbabwe all voted the same way. I�ll give you one guess. |
http://blogs.telegraph.co.uk/ukcorrespondents/holysmoke/dec07/islam-resolution.htm
This is worrisome, and not just for the including of criticism of islam as a human rights violation (which is nothing less that totally retarded).
But it seems that much of the world now sees islam as the voice of anti-Western ideology. I've read (CFR) that leftist Uni students in Latin America have been converting as a sign of the lefty street cred. And it goes without saying that the left in the West has given muslims full freedom to behave as they might please, totally free of all and any criticism that might touch on why they do what they do. |
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wannago
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Yes....exactly why we need a president that will pander to Islamic nations. You know how important it is that everyone likes the U.S.
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Justin Hale
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This is why I'm an admirer of Mr Bush even though I'm not generally a conservative.
There is no such thing as international law other than the laws of survival of the fittest and supply and demand.
Bush was quite right to ignore the UN and start a war between Shiites and Sunnis. |
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thepeel
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| Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:20 am Post subject: |
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| Justin Hale wrote: |
This is why I'm an admirer of Mr Bush even though I'm not generally a conservative.
There is no such thing as international law other than the laws of survival of the fittest and supply and demand.
Bush was quite right to ignore the UN and start a war between Shiites and Sunnis. |
I agree. There is no international law. Many people who go law school go to study "international law" and quickly realize nothing of the sort exists. Law must be backed by a monopoly of force. No such institution exists on a global level.
About the sunnis and shiites, they would pick their own fight. No need to involve us. Just build a figurative wall around the so-called muslim "world" and walk away. No immigration, no aid, no help, nothing. Let them fester in their own crap. Hell, let China and Russia deal with them. Every 10 years or so we can take a peek and see how they are making out and reevaluate this. I'm being serious too. |
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Ya-ta Boy
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| Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:56 am Post subject: |
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| I agree. There is no international law. Many people who go law school... |
I also agree. Physics students who go to physics school soon learn that Newton was wrong-- there is no Law of Gravity. The earth just sucks. |
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Justin Hale
Joined: 24 Nov 2007
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| Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:33 am Post subject: |
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| I agree. There is no international law. Many people who go law school... |
I also agree. Physics students who go to physics school soon learn that Newton was wrong-- there is no Law of Gravity. The earth just sucks. |
Very funny. Quite the comedian.
I did a stand-up act recently for people who have Altzeimers. I walked onto the stage, told my first joke, and everybody erupted with laughter. I told the same joke again 20 seconds later. Everybody erupted with laughter. I told the same joke again and again and again - a total of 62 times - and every time, the same eruption of laughter.
After the gig, the Chairman of the Altzeimers Association said "great show, Justin. How you remember all those jokes I will never know".
Returning to the point and away from comedy, there is no such thing as international law. Those who can, do, and will, if they want. That is why I admire Mr Bush and for no other reason. I hate the UN. |
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igotthisguitar
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| Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 5:48 am Post subject: |
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Islam is at its core inherently dangerous & oppressive
One more reason why Oceania's Hegelian legislators have for some time now been actively pimping open borders
& mass Muslim immigration to the west  |
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On the other hand
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| Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:29 am Post subject: |
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It didn�t attract much notice, but the General Assembly of the United Nations ended the year by passing a disgusting resolution protecting Islam from criticism of its human rights violations.
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In what way does this resolution "protect" Islam from criticism? Does it actually contain language meant to sound as if it is now illegal to criticize Islam? Or does it just say that Islam shouldn't be criticized? I don't really like either as a UN resolution, but I'd say the second is considerably less sinister than the first. |
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Kuros
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| Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 10:43 am Post subject: |
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| thepeel wrote: |
| Justin Hale wrote: |
This is why I'm an admirer of Mr Bush even though I'm not generally a conservative.
There is no such thing as international law other than the laws of survival of the fittest and supply and demand.
Bush was quite right to ignore the UN and start a war between Shiites and Sunnis. |
I agree. There is no international law. Many people who go law school go to study "international law" and quickly realize nothing of the sort exists. Law must be backed by a monopoly of force. No such institution exists on a global level.
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UN Convention for Contracts of the International Sales of Goods has the real force of law, as recognized by 70 of the most powerful nation-states in the world.
The UN is a forum. It is not a governing body. But it is a useful forum, where valuable things have been accomplished. |
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On the other hand
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And I did find this rather amusing...
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Cuba, China, North Korea and Zimbabwe all voted the same way.
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So given their heartfelt belief in tolerance for Islam, are we to assume that the Norks would just smile benignly upon anyone who stood on a street corner in Pyongyang and preached that there is no God but Allah?
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Ya-ta Boy
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| Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 2:14 pm Post subject: |
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| I told the same joke again and again and again - a total of 62 times |
I guess that explains the longevity of your standup career and why you've taken up ESL for your day job.
To be honest, I took your first post as sarcasm. I didn't realize you were that far out of touch. I will keep that in mind the next time I read one of your posts. |
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caniff
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thepeel
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| Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:45 pm Post subject: |
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It didn�t attract much notice, but the General Assembly of the United Nations ended the year by passing a disgusting resolution protecting Islam from criticism of its human rights violations.
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In what way does this resolution "protect" Islam from criticism? Does it actually contain language meant to sound as if it is now illegal to criticize Islam? Or does it just say that Islam shouldn't be criticized? I don't really like either as a UN resolution, but I'd say the second is considerably less sinister than the first. |
The issue here is a movement, all over the world, to include the freedom from criticism of islam (and only islam) as a human right. This is yet another example of how muslims use the structures of power to bring about their theological ends. How long, now, until the little liberal weenies start citing this bullshat resolution on college campuses, and how long then until those same weenies are sitting members of HRC's in Canada.
Oh, wait. They already are.
islam is the strongest regressive force on earth, and the UN pandering to it is not a good sign. |
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thepeel
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| Posted: Fri Jan 04, 2008 11:47 pm Post subject: |
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And I did find this rather amusing...
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Cuba, China, North Korea and Zimbabwe all voted the same way.
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So given their heartfelt belief in tolerance for Islam, are we to assume that the Norks would just smile benignly upon anyone who stood on a street corner in Pyongyang and preached that there is no God but Allah? |
No, I already said why they do this. islam is being positioned by muslim states as the voice of anti-Western positions in the world. That secular states would side with a religion out of a sense of post-colonial solidarity and anti-Western angst is not a good development. |
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On the other hand
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| Posted: Sat Jan 05, 2008 4:59 am Post subject: |
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| thepeel wrote: |
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And I did find this rather amusing...
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Cuba, China, North Korea and Zimbabwe all voted the same way.
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So given their heartfelt belief in tolerance for Islam, are we to assume that the Norks would just smile benignly upon anyone who stood on a street corner in Pyongyang and preached that there is no God but Allah? |
No, I already said why they do this. islam is being positioned by muslim states as the voice of anti-Western positions in the world. That secular states would side with a religion out of a sense of post-colonial solidarity and anti-Western angst is not a good development. |
Yes, I realize that North Korea's support for the resolution has nothing to do with any genuine affection for Islam. That's why I used the word "amusing" to describe my reaction to it. |
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